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Old Feb 21, 12, 6:57 am   #1
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New First class retrofit thread

Summary of aircraft with the new First Class cabin by LH hub (updated 11 December 2014)

FRA - 12 x A380 (6 also have new C) : 16 x B744 (out of 17, but please see note below) : 15 x B748i (also have new C) : 7 x A333 (out of 10; 5 also have new C)
No FRA-based A346 has new F. All A343s are or will be turned into two class aircraft without the F cabin.

MUC – 14 x A346 (out of 20, 2 being retrofitted) : 9 x A333 (out of 9; they also have new C)
No longhaul Boeing aircraft or A343 is based in MUC

DUS - no aircraft with F

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How do I check if my flight will have new F?

Lufthansa's flight status page now tells you if flights in the next 5 days will have new F or not. Go to Flight Status, enter the flight number or flight route and select the date. Click Display Flight Status. On the next screen select Additional options, then Flight details. If the aircraft scheduled to fly on the day has new F you'll see "Neue/New First Class".

LH has added a new tool to check flights about 60 days out.

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Status as of 11 December 2014

744 : all 16 with new F are based in FRA:
D-ABVW is without F, but has new C.

B748i : all 15 are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are not retrofit)

A380 : all 12 are based in FRA and have new F, of which 6 have new C.

A346 : 14 retrofitted so far (out of 20) all based in MUC:
D-AIHA, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHK, D-AIHN, D-AIHO, D-AIHP, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHU, D-AIHV and D-AIHW
D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHK, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHV and D-AIHW also have new Business seats.

The following A346s based in MUC have not been retrofitted with new F:
D-AIHD, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHY and D-AIHZ.

A343 : None. All A343s are or will be turned into two class aircraft without the F cabin.

A333 : 14 aircraft with new F, of which 10 were retrofitted. Some also have new C seats:

D-AIKE, D-AIKI, D-AIKM and D-AIKN are based in MUC.
In addition 4 new MUC-based A333s with new F: D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR, D-AIKS
All 8 have new First and Business Class seats.

D-AIKD, D-AIKF, D-AIKG, D-AIKH and D-AIKK are based in FRA and have new First and Business Class seats.
D-AIKJ and D-AIKL are also based in FRA and have new First but old Business.
The following A333s based in FRA have not been retrofitted with new F yet: D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, and D-AIKO.

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Check the following thread about aircraft with the new Business seats:
New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.

Last edited by NewbieRunner; Dec 11, 14 at 4:38 pm. Reason: removed TH & TF, fixed VY, added note re VW
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Old Feb 27, 12, 3:28 pm   #2
 
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Flight24.com accurate??

Hi there,

I am going to be flying the LAX-MUC-LAX route and i took a look at the aircrafts based in MUC.
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
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Old Feb 27, 12, 5:05 pm   #3
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I am going to be flying the LAX-MUC-LAX route and i took a look at the aircrafts based in MUC.
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
No, flight24 is not 100% accurate. However if you check LH452 you will find the following.

LH452 was flown on 2012-02-27 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-26 by D-AIHR (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-25 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-24 by D-AIHR (A346)

D-AIHW is on its way to LAX today and D-AIHR seems to be on its way to PVG. You can actually track its progress live on flightradar24.

Here's a screenshot.


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Old Feb 27, 12, 9:10 pm   #4
 
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any info on planned 2012 retrofitting?
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Old Feb 27, 12, 9:48 pm   #5
 
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No, flight24 is not 100% accurate. However if you check LH452 you will find the following.

LH452 was flown on 2012-02-27 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-26 by D-AIHR (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-25 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-24 by D-AIHR (A346)

D-AIHW is on its way to LAX today and D-AIHR seems to be on its way to PVG. You can actually track its progress live on flightradar24.

Here's a screenshot.

Thanks ! Wow, it looks like the LAX MUC LAX route has pretty good chances to have the new first class!!
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Old Feb 29, 12, 12:27 pm   #6
 
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Took D-AIFE yesterday MUC > EWR.

The new F is great!

I am surprised how rough passengers treat the products - the woman next to me decided to manually push the ottoman back and forth.... Not sure how long until that seat is broken.
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Old Mar 3, 12, 7:19 am   #7
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According to rcs (aka rcs85551) on VFT it sounds like MUC-based 343s and 346s with the new F will be flying to the following destinations as from the end of March.

343: GRU, ICN, SIN
346: LAX, SFO, PEK, PVG, DEL

333 with the new C and possibly new F seats will operate
Between the end of May and end of June: DXB, TLV
Between the beginning of July and end of August: BOM
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Old Mar 3, 12, 7:44 am   #8
 
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I might have thought with Korean Air putting a 388 on ICN to FRA that LH might have put the new F on that route.
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Old Mar 3, 12, 7:46 pm   #9
 
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Flew in the new F MUC-EWR(LH 412) today

The plane left a few minutes late because the other 2 pax in F had been driven to the flight going to Tokyo.
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D-AIHT is now MUC based also.

This means all 346 with new F now MUC based.
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Old Mar 3, 12, 9:47 pm   #11
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Maybe this thread should also include retrofit of new C similar to the sticky in the LX forum?
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D-AIHT is now MUC based also.

This means all 346 with new F now MUC based.
So FRA has no 346 with new F??
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So FRA has no 346 with new F??
Correct. D-AIHT transferred to MUC on 1st March and now appears to be flying random destinations from MUC.

Cant understand why LH has put all their 346 with new F to MUC.
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Old Mar 4, 12, 12:34 am   #14
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Correct. D-AIHT transferred to MUC on 1st March and now appears to be flying random destinations from MUC.

Cant understand why LH has put all their 346 with new F to MUC.
I can't, and that's not just because I prefer flying from MUC. As long as you have a small subfleet it's much better to have them in one place, so that you can schedule them reliably. Much better to offer new F 95% of them time on a few routes in MUC and then on and off on various routes.
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Old Mar 4, 12, 1:36 am   #15
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Flew in the new F MUC-EWR(LH 412) today

The plane left a few minutes late because the other 2 pax in F had been driven to the flight going to Tokyo.
Driven to H38? Did they have a tight connection?
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