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Old Feb 21, 12, 5:57 am   #1
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New First class retrofit thread (last updated 30 July 2015)

There is no LH aircraft in service with the old First Class cabin as of 27 June 2015!

MUC – 19 x A346 (new F and C) : 8 x A333 (new F and C)
No longhaul Boeing aircraft, A343 or A380 is based in MUC

FRA - 14 x A380 (new F and C) : 19 x B748i (new F and C) : 3 x B744 : 3 x A346 (2 being retrofitted) : 9 x A333

All A343s are or will be turned into two class aircraft without the F cabin.

There are currently 15 x B744 based in FRA. 3 have 'seat and bed' on the upper deck. 12 are without F, but have new C. One (D-ABVM) is being retrofitted with new C.
Only 13 (D-ABTK/TL/VM/VO/VP/VR/VS/VT/VU/VW/VX/VY/VZ) will get new C, and remaining ones will be retired. The following 744s still have seat and bed on the upper deck: D-ABVK, D-ABVL, D-ABVN

DUS - no aircraft with F at present but in the W15/16 season a MUC based A333 will operate MUC-EWR-DUS-EWR-MUC with First Class.

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Check the following thread about aircraft with the new Business seats:
New Business class Line- or Retrofit / routes etc.

Last edited by NewbieRunner; Aug 28, 15 at 1:42 pm. Reason: no more old F cabin! VS is back; VM gone for new C; VH retired; F service DUS-EWR in W15/16
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Old Feb 27, 12, 2:28 pm   #2
 
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Flight24.com accurate??

Hi there,

I am going to be flying the LAX-MUC-LAX route and i took a look at the aircrafts based in MUC.
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
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Old Feb 27, 12, 4:05 pm   #3
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I am going to be flying the LAX-MUC-LAX route and i took a look at the aircrafts based in MUC.
I found that D-AIHW and D-AIHR are both flying that route today Feb 27th.

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHW/

http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/D-AIHR/
No, flight24 is not 100% accurate. However if you check LH452 you will find the following.

LH452 was flown on 2012-02-27 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-26 by D-AIHR (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-25 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-24 by D-AIHR (A346)

D-AIHW is on its way to LAX today and D-AIHR seems to be on its way to PVG. You can actually track its progress live on flightradar24.

Here's a screenshot.


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Old Feb 27, 12, 8:10 pm   #4
 
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any info on planned 2012 retrofitting?
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Old Feb 27, 12, 8:48 pm   #5
 
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No, flight24 is not 100% accurate. However if you check LH452 you will find the following.

LH452 was flown on 2012-02-27 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-26 by D-AIHR (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-25 by D-AIHW (A346)
LH452 was flown on 2012-02-24 by D-AIHR (A346)

D-AIHW is on its way to LAX today and D-AIHR seems to be on its way to PVG. You can actually track its progress live on flightradar24.

Here's a screenshot.

Thanks ! Wow, it looks like the LAX MUC LAX route has pretty good chances to have the new first class!!
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Old Feb 29, 12, 11:27 am   #6
 
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Took D-AIFE yesterday MUC > EWR.

The new F is great!

I am surprised how rough passengers treat the products - the woman next to me decided to manually push the ottoman back and forth.... Not sure how long until that seat is broken.
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According to rcs (aka rcs85551) on VFT it sounds like MUC-based 343s and 346s with the new F will be flying to the following destinations as from the end of March.

343: GRU, ICN, SIN
346: LAX, SFO, PEK, PVG, DEL

333 with the new C and possibly new F seats will operate
Between the end of May and end of June: DXB, TLV
Between the beginning of July and end of August: BOM
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I might have thought with Korean Air putting a 388 on ICN to FRA that LH might have put the new F on that route.
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Old Mar 3, 12, 6:46 pm   #9
 
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Flew in the new F MUC-EWR(LH 412) today

The plane left a few minutes late because the other 2 pax in F had been driven to the flight going to Tokyo.
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D-AIHT is now MUC based also.

This means all 346 with new F now MUC based.
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Maybe this thread should also include retrofit of new C similar to the sticky in the LX forum?
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D-AIHT is now MUC based also.

This means all 346 with new F now MUC based.
So FRA has no 346 with new F??
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So FRA has no 346 with new F??
Correct. D-AIHT transferred to MUC on 1st March and now appears to be flying random destinations from MUC.

Cant understand why LH has put all their 346 with new F to MUC.
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Old Mar 3, 12, 11:34 pm   #14
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Correct. D-AIHT transferred to MUC on 1st March and now appears to be flying random destinations from MUC.

Cant understand why LH has put all their 346 with new F to MUC.
I can't, and that's not just because I prefer flying from MUC. As long as you have a small subfleet it's much better to have them in one place, so that you can schedule them reliably. Much better to offer new F 95% of them time on a few routes in MUC and then on and off on various routes.
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Old Mar 4, 12, 12:36 am   #15
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Flew in the new F MUC-EWR(LH 412) today

The plane left a few minutes late because the other 2 pax in F had been driven to the flight going to Tokyo.
Driven to H38? Did they have a tight connection?
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