Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]
Jul 27, 2011, 6:30 am
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Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]
I'm looking at a TATL trip this fall in Y and upgrading with SWUs, and I'm not seeing much C availability on UA metal (let alone NC) - so I'm contemplating booking LH and playing their day-of-flight upgrade lottery. Is there anywhere I can check to see what their loads in C have been like for a given route?
Thanks
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Jul 27, 2011, 12:02 pm
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outbound I would say 9/9 is a safe bet, 9/10 is OKish:
Interesting to see two kinds of 2-class 343 configs. First time I saw that.
Inbound it looks like they are managing to sell C so it may be tight. US Air is running a 767 and a 330 that day to PHL from FRA
OTOH its a short day flight that can be slummed out in Y:
Code:
AD9SEPPHLFRA/ALH
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** FRA FRANKFURT.DE 44 FR 09SEP 0000
1US:LH5241 J4 C4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 U4 /PHL A FRA 1 1620 0610+1E0/333 7:50
H4 Q4 V4 W4
2 LH 427 J9 C9 D9 Z8 Y9 B9 M9 /PHL A FRA 1 1740 0755+1E0/343 8:15
U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T7
SM LH 0427/Y/09SEPPHLFRA/V /S001/
SM LH 0427 Y 09SEP PHLFRA 343
A C D E F G H K
M 15 <B / / / B> 15 M
16 < V V V V V V V V > 16
18 < V V V V V V V V > 18
19 < V V V V V V V V > 19
20 < + + + . . + + + > 20
21 < + + + . . + + + > 21
22 < + + + . . . + + > 22
23 < + + + + + + + + > 23
24 < + + . . . + + + > 24
25 < + + . . . + + + > 25
26 < + + . + + . + + > 26
27 < + + + + + + + + > 27
29 + I I / 29
30 E / / / / / / + / E 30
31 + + . . + + + + 31
32 + + . . . . . + 32
33 + + / . . . + + 33
34 + + . . . / + + 34
35 + + . + + + + + 35
36 + + . . + + + + 36
37 + + + + + . . + 37
38 + . + + . . + + 38
39 . . . . + + . . 39
40 / / / / / / / / 40
41 / / / / / / / 41
42 . . . . . + + 42
43 + + U U U + + 43
44 + + . . . + + 44
45 + + . . . . + 45
46 + + . . 46
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L TOILET U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
SM LH 0427 C 09SEP PHLFRA 343
A C D G H K
C 1 + + . . . . 1 C
2 + + . . + + 2
3 U U . . . . 3
4 . . . . + . 4
5 . . H H . . 5
6 . . 6
10 C I C I I C 10
11 < . . . . . . > 11
A C D G H K
AD10SEPPHLFRA/ALH
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** FRA FRANKFURT.DE 45 SA 10SEP 0000
1US:LH5241 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 M4 /PHL A FRA 1 1620 0610+1E0/333 7:50
U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4
2 LH 427 J9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 B9 ML /PHL A FRA 1 1740 0755+1E0/343 8:15
UL H9 QL VL WL SL
SM LH 0427/C/10SEPPHLFRA/V
SM LH 0427 C 10SEP PHLFRA 343
A C D G H K
C 1 . . + + 1 C
2 + . . + 2
3 + + + . + + 3
4 . . . . . . 4
10 C I C I I C 10
11 < U U . . . . > 11
12 < . . H H . . > 12
14 < . . + + . . > 14
15 < . . . . . . > 15
16 < . . . . . . > 16
A C D G H K
SM LH 0427/Y/10SEPPHLFRA/V
SM LH 0427 Y 10SEP PHLFRA 343
A C D E F G H K
M 24 <B + + / / / + . B> 24 M
25 < V V V V V V + V > 25
26 < V V V V V V V V > 26
27 < V V V V V V V V > 27
29 / I I / 29
30 E / / / / / / / / E 30
31 + + + + + + + + 31
32 + + + + . + + + 32
33 + + / . + + + + 33
34 + + + + . / + + 34
35 + + + + . + + . 35
36 + + . + + . + . 36
37 . + . + + . + . 37
38 + + + + + + + + 38
39 . + . . . . + . 39
40 / / / / / / / / 40
41 / / / / / / / 41
42 . + . . + + . 42
43 + + . . . + U 43
44 + . U U U U U 44
45 + + . . . X X 45
46 . . . . . X X 46
A C D E F G H K
Inbound it looks like they are managing to sell C so it may be tight. US Air is running a 767 and a 330 that day to PHL from FRA
OTOH its a short day flight that can be slummed out in Y:Code:
ad23sepfraphl/alh
AD23SEPFRAPHL/ALH
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** PHL PHILADELPHIA.USPA 58 FR 23SEP 0000
** LWNYC742 SETAI FIFTH AVENUE*ALL NEW*15PCT OFF BEST AVAIL
** FR 506US*15PCT COMM*COMP BRKFAST FOR 2* WIFI >HALWNYC742
1US:LH5228 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 M4 /FRA 1 PHL A 1110 1400 E0/333 8:50
U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 T4
2US:LH5230 J4 C4 D4 Y4 B4 M4 U4 /FRA 1 PHL A 1250 1555 E0/767 9:05
H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4
3 LH 426 J9 C9 D9 ZL Y9 B9 M9 /FRA 1 PHL A 1255 1600 E0/343 9:05
U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
>SM LH 0426/y/23SEPfraphl/V
SM LH 0426/Y/23SEPFRAPHL/V
SM LH 0426 Y 23SEP FRAPHL 343
A C D E F G H K
M 15 <B / / / B> 15 M
16 < V V V V V V V V > 16
18 < V V V V V V V V > 18
19 < V V V V V V V V > 19
20 < + + + + + + + + > 20
21 < + + + + . + + + > 21
22 < + + + + + + + + > 22
23 < + + + . . . + + > 23
24 < + + + . + + + + > 24
25 < + + + . . . + + > 25
26 < + + + . . . + + > 26
27 < + . . . . . . + > 27
29 / I I / 29
30 E / / / / / / / / E 30
31 + + . . . . + + 31
32 + + + . . + + + 32
33 . . / . . . + . 33
34 . . . . . / + . 34
35 + + . . + + + + 35
36 + + . . . . . + 36
37 + + . . . . . . 37
38 . . . . . . . . 38
39 . . . . . . . . 39
40 / / / / / / / / 40
41 / / / / / / / 41
42 . . . . . + + 42
43 . . U U U U U 43
44 . . . . . U U 44
45 + + . . + . . 45
46 . . . . 46
A C D E F G H K
>SM LH 0426/c/23SEPfraphl/V
SM LH 0426/C/23SEPFRAPHL/V
SM LH 0426 C 23SEP FRAPHL 343
A C D G H K
C 1 + . . . + + 1 C
2 + + . . . + 2
3 U U + + + + 3
4 + . + + + + 4
5 . . H H . . 5
6 . . 6
10 C I + + I C 10
11 < . . . . . . > 11
A C D G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L TOILET U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
>
Jul 28, 2011, 3:39 pm
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Code:
AD23SEPSFOFRA*27SEP/ALH
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** FRA FRANKFURT.DE 57 FR 23SEP 0000
1 UA 900 F5 C9 D8 Z0 B9 M9 H9 /SFO I FRA 1 1405 0945+1E0.744 10:40
Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 A4 J9 Y9 E0 U9
2UA:CO4205 J9 C9 D8 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 /SFO I FRA 1 1405 0945+1E0/744 10:40
E0 U9 H9 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
3LH:UA8828 F2 C4 D4 Z0 B4 M4 H4 /SFO I FRA 1 1415 1000+1E0.388 10:45
Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 A0 J4 Y4 E0 U4
4 LH 455 F6 AL J9 C9 D9 ZL Y9 /SFO I FRA 1 1415 1000+1E0/388 10:45
B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 VL WL SL
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** SFO SAN FRANCISCO.USCA 61 TU 27SEP 0000
11 LH 454 F6 AL J9 C9 D9 ZL Y9 /FRA 1 SFO I 0945 1205 E0/388 11:20
B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W8 SL
Aug 3, 2011, 11:14 am
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A380 Loads out/in SFO-FRA
I am trying to get an idea of what the loads have been like on the A380 both SFO-FRA and FRA-SFO.
Need to book a ticket for August travel and was hoping to use a UA SWU to upgrade from Y -> C on the new bird.
Is the flight going out full? Or is there a chance of a same-day upgrade?
Need to book a ticket for August travel and was hoping to use a UA SWU to upgrade from Y -> C on the new bird.
Is the flight going out full? Or is there a chance of a same-day upgrade?
Aug 12, 2011, 10:18 pm
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C->F chances on LH455
Looking to upgrade from C->F with SWU on the A380 SFO to FRA. Can anybody tell me how it looks on Aug 19 or Aug 20?
Last edited by SMF2SAN; Aug 12, 2011 at 10:20 pm Reason: Wrong dates
Aug 12, 2011, 11:26 pm
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Aug 14, 2011, 3:08 am
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Looks like the usual summer flight: very full in the back with returning vacationers, C/F moderately booked. Say hi to my old town!
Code:
>dolh442/18aug
DOLH442/18AUG
* 1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO * LH 442 4 TH 18AUG
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
FRA 1350 TH FAJCDZYBMUH/M 333 9:00
QVWSTLK/M
DTW 1650 TH 9:00
COMMENTS-
1.FRA DTW - DEPARTS TERMINAL 1
2.FRA DTW - ARRIVES TERMINAL N
9.FRA DTW - F8C48M165
CONFIGURATION-
333 F 8 C 48 M 165
>ad18augfradtw1330/alh
AD18AUGFRADTW1330/ALH
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** DTW DETROIT METRO.USMI 4 TH 18AUG 1330
1 LH 442 F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 Z9 Y9 /FRA 1 DTW N 1350 1650 E0/333 9:00
B9 M3 U3 H2 Q2 V2 W1 S1 T3
SM LH 0442/F/18AUGFRADTW/V /S001/
SM LH 0442 F 18AUG FRADTW 333
A D G K
F 1 . + + + 1 F
2 . . . . 2
A D G K
SM LH 0442/C/18AUGFRADTW/V
SM LH 0442 C 18AUG FRADTW 333
A C D G H K
C 3 + + + + + + 3 C
4 + + + + + + 4
10 C I C I I C 10
11 < U U . . + . > 11
12 < . . H H . . > 12
14 < + + + + + . > 14
15 < . . . . . . > 15
16 < . . . . . . > 16
A C D G H K
SM LH 0442 Y 18AUG FRADTW 333
A C D E F G H K
M 24 <B + + / / / + + B> 24 M
25 < + + V V V + + V > 25
26 < V + V V V + + + > 26
27 < + + + + + + + + > 27
29 + + + + 29
30 E + / / / / / + / E 30
31 + + + + + + + + 31
32 + + + + + + + + 32
33 + + / + + + + + 33
34 + + + + + / + + 34
35 + + / + + + + + 35
36 + + + + + + + + 36
37 + + + + + + + + 37
38 + + + + + + + + 38
39 + + + + + + + + 39
40 / / / / / / / / 40
41 / / / / / / / 41
42 + + + + + + + 42
43 + + + + + + + 43
44 + + + + + + + 44
45 + + + + + + + 45
46 + + + + + + + 46
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L TOILET U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
>
