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Old Nov 29, 10, 5:05 am   #1
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Exclamation New M&M award chart from 03JAN2011 in C & F [rumour confirmed]

Rumours are coming in that there will be an enhancement in the award chart from 01.01.2011 for C & F travel?

Details are sketchy right now ... but it looks like a 20% devaluation.

Already being discussed here:

Time to burn, especially in F.
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Old Nov 29, 10, 5:16 am   #2
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Thanks for the **** news on this bright Monday morning !!
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hmmm.... rates increase with 4 weeks notice? Weird.
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hmmm.... rates increase with 4 weeks notice? Weird.
my thought exactly, no info anywhere else either... lets wait and see...
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Old Nov 29, 10, 5:20 am   #5
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Time to book some F awards, which can be changed at €50 anyway later next year.
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Old Nov 29, 10, 5:30 am   #6
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HON Hotline confirmed after searching their database:
"Es wird sich zum 01.01.2011 einiges Erhöhen und Verändern"

("There will be several changes and increases from 01.01.11").
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Old Nov 29, 10, 6:36 am   #7
 
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Time to book some F awards, which can be changed at €50 anyway later next year.
Are they valid 1 year from issue or 1 year from outbound flight?

The only award I ever changed was issued 2 days before outbound so I didn't notice which original date they referenced.

P.S.: I think the short notice makes sense if they want to combat people booking early to avoid this inflationary enhancement.

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Thanks for the **** news on this bright Monday morning !!
:-/ Agreed, not a good start to the week.
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Old Nov 29, 10, 7:13 am   #9
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HON Hotline confirmed after searching their database:
"Es wird sich zum 01.01.2011 einiges Erhöhen und Verändern"

("There will be several changes and increases from 01.01.11").
That is not very nice! One month notice of "several changes"?
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Old Nov 29, 10, 7:17 am   #10
 
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Somebody already got or seen the December-issue of the "LH exclusive"-magazine?

Usually, enhancements are first published there.

Let's hope that the changes are limited to the end of status miles with Cirrus

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Old Nov 29, 10, 7:32 am   #11
 
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Cr@p....

Suddenly the BMI miles I burned last week are worth even more than the Miles and Less...
With a bit of luck this comes coupled with reduced earnings for more booking classes...

It's the frog story, heat the water bit by bit until you boil it.

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Old Nov 29, 10, 7:57 am   #12
 
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20% ...I'm glad I heard this before I decided to go for some M&M miles.
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Old Nov 29, 10, 8:16 am   #13
 
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Somebody already got or seen the December-issue of the "LH exclusive"-magazine?

Usually, enhancements are first published there.
This surprises me as well. I got the magazine last week. Only went through it for a few moments (as usual, mainly checking the M&M part towards the last pages), but did not see any publishing for this.
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(...) if they want to combat people booking early to avoid this inflationary enhancement.
Actually this change is extremely moderate (~+20%) compared to the PPB changes two years ago that moved the points to just 25% of their value before.
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Old Nov 29, 10, 8:33 am   #15
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OK, as usual rcs85551 got the scoop from his sources and posted it here:

http://www.vielfliegertreff.de/blogs...ere-first.html

The summary in English:

+ two stopovers allowed per award
+ one way awards are now 50% and no longer 75%
+ same day award 'penalty' of 10k has been removed

- the 3 k discount to book regular X awards online is abolished
- C/F redemption chart has been reworked. For example:


Europe – North America (Business Class / First Class):
Previously 90.000 / 140.000, Now 105.000 / 170.000

Europe – S America (Business Class / First Class):
Previously 120.000 / 180.000, Now 135.000 / 210.000

Europe – S. Africa (Business Class / First Class):
Previously 90.000 / 140.000, Now 105.000 / 170.000

Europe – SEA or Far East (Business Class / First Class):
Previously 120.000 / 180.000, Now 135.000 / 210.000

3-Region-Award (Business Class / First Class):
Previously 160.000 / 240.000, Now 185.000 / 290.000

Round-The-World-Award (Business Class / First Class):
Previously 280.000 / 400.000, Now 325.000 / 480.000
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