bzcat

The stuck-in-the-80s feel is mainly because the airport hasn't been updated since the early 80s when it was renovated for the 1984 Olympics. Since that time, NIMBYs in the Westchester area and lack of leadership from the City and LAWA itself have stalled all development plans. Aside from a limited redo of T4 and minor refurbishment of T5 and T6, LAX terminals has not changed since 1983.

It took the current Mayor, who cleaned house and appointed a new LAWA management to actually get going on TBIT expansion and renovation. And we are finally getting some traction on automated people mover and light rail extension that will bring the trains to the airport.

HighPotter

Get your facts straight.
The "nimby's" in Westchester have had NOTHING to do with the lack of renovations to ANY terminal or light rail/people mover at LAX.

That is a FACT.


HP

bzcat

LAWA's plan to replace T1/T2/T3 is tied up with moving the north runway, which is blocked by NIMBYs of various degree of crazy. The TBIT expansion had few NIMBY opposition this time but early attempts were rebuffed by NIMBYs who successfully argued for the silly multi-airport regional strategy. Again, as I also pointed out, the slow progress is also due to indifference of LAWA and City leadership (in the face of NIMBYs and otherwise).

The current leadership has moved the ball forward and appeased some of the NIMBY factions with restoration of Westchester golf course and other goodwill gestures. But the north runway and T1/T2/T3 modernization is still not happening.

HighPotter

COMPLETELY inaccurate. The movement of the North runway, and a remodel of T-1 thru 3 are totally different issues.

LAWA moved the south 25's, but didn't "expand" T-4 through 8, did they?

Terminals 1,2 and 3 can be remodeled and revamped without moving EITHER of the 24's runways further north.

And since the moving of 24R has always been the ONLY REAL plan presented by LAWA ( not 24L), your NIMBY argument in regards to remodeling the north terminals, holds no merit.

HP

TWA884

Mayor Hahn's LAX modernization plan involved moving the inner runway on LAX's north side in order to to accommodate a center taxiway and increase the separation between the runways. That plan required the demolition of Terminals 1, 2 and 3 (LAX Master Plan).

That plan was opposed by Westchester residents. The city dropped that proposal in exchange for a promise by airport-area communities to drop federal and state lawsuits that challenged it (Los Angeles Times).

Eventually, a panel of academics determined that the current runway configuration is safe and that while increasing the separation between the two runways may improve safety, the current risk is so low that reducing it further would not result in any practical benefits (ARSAC). That news was welcomed in Westchester (Los Angeles Times).

mhnadel

American claims to be renovating. That means they are using some remote gates. When my flight from BOS to LAX arrived at a remote gate a couple of weeks ago, it was a surprisingly long bus ride to the terminal. I think we may have been out where the old Imperial terminal was for those who remember that.

I lived in LA for 17 years and it is my most frequent business travel destination, so I'm used to LAX. It's not wonderful, but it isn't nearly as bad as MIA.

HighPotter

The remote stands are in the north/west portions of the airport.

The old Imperial Terminal is/was on the south side of the airport, about midway down 25L.

HP

bzcat

I guess you are one of those NIMBYs in Westchester

TWA884 has already owned you so I will just leave it at that. The current state of terminals has everything to do with 25 years of NIMBY interference. Just as much as indifferent city and LAWA leadership.

HighPotter

TWA884 has hardly "owned" me, child.

If you actually READ the proposal in TWA's link, it states the plan is to move 24L south, and would mean demolition and reconstruction of Terminals 1,2 and 4.

No Westchester resident would be against this proposal, since it would have NO impact on the airport boundaries.

If your issue is with moving 24R to the NORTH, rerouting all 6 lanes of Lincoln Blvd, and wiping out more business and increasing even more noise in the area....then that is different.

But that plan has been found by NASA to have no merit.


HP

Ancien Maestro

A renovation..

This is the first I've heard in a long time that anyone is renovating at LAX..^

ByrdluvsAWACO

AA isn't renovating in the sense of improving aesthetics. AA's terminal refurb was done back in 2001. Currently, they are closing two gates at a time to install new fuel lines.

The only thing that can be considered a renovation would be the new concessions scheduled to be setup this year.

LAX T4 getting better food options

Ancien Maestro

The renos I guess is bringing it from the 60's back up to the 80's..

drab looking, tired.. but I guess LAX airport gets the job done

ByrdluvsAWACO

I would say that applies to many of the other terminals. But AA spent a considerable amount of money on T4 and the Admirals Club to give the facility a modern feel.

FlyMeToTheLooneyBin

Maybe they should use more glass to bring in more sunlight.

Ancien Maestro

Looks pretty nice actually..

I didn't know that AA modernized their terminal.. the terminals I've been is an eyesore, and seems cavernous old..