When does LAN release Award Availability to partners?
#106
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Platinum (LTG), OW Emerald, Accor Platinum; Hyatt Explorist.
Posts: 2,165
I just scored redemption seats between SCL-RIO RTN using QF points (no way I was paying $2500AUD for Y+) Anyway, QF keep telling me how lucky I was to find redemption seats on LAN...."rare as hens teeth" they tell me.
Not sure why LAN is so restrictive in this respect.
CJ
Not sure why LAN is so restrictive in this respect.
CJ
#107
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: LANPASS
Posts: 368
They do have tough award management (the equivalent of revenue management but for awards) rules. They can manage their award availability with impressive granularity i.e., they can open award availability to a partner airline on certain flights but only if those spaces are sold on a specific sales city
As to why do they do it, perhaps they prioritize lanpass members' redemption first, second and third, and are constantly (read: real-time) maximizing their business unit's revenue
As to why do they do it, perhaps they prioritize lanpass members' redemption first, second and third, and are constantly (read: real-time) maximizing their business unit's revenue
#108
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP/LTG | UA P
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I have had a fair number of lengthy calls to QF trying to use my QF FF points for LAN Chile and Argentina domestic redemptions - and none of them successful (apart from one 10 yrs ago). I'd agree that you are lucky. But then again, trying to get anything in or out of USH in summer (peak Antarctic cruise season) is unlikely given that flights seem full and AR is reported to be chronically overbooked on some flights.
#109
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Falkland Islands
Programs: AA, BA, UA, COPA, Air Canada (dormant)
Posts: 176
A friend who does credit to LANPASS (I don't) once saw availability at something like 180,000 kms!
High season, even availability for money (I don't know about for love) is limited, especially this year.
There are vague mutterings about a bigger plane being used, but so far only vague mutterings.
#110
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 5,653
2 (S Hemisphere) winters ago, BA was getting very good (possibly too good) availability on PUQ-MPN (&vv) but there has been nothing since then.
A friend who does credit to LANPASS (I don't) once saw availability at something like 180,000 kms!
High season, even availability for money (I don't know about for love) is limited, especially this year.
There are vague mutterings about a bigger plane being used, but so far only vague mutterings.
A friend who does credit to LANPASS (I don't) once saw availability at something like 180,000 kms!
High season, even availability for money (I don't know about for love) is limited, especially this year.
There are vague mutterings about a bigger plane being used, but so far only vague mutterings.
#111
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 221
I have had a fair number of lengthy calls to QF trying to use my QF FF points for LAN Chile and Argentina domestic redemptions - and none of them successful (apart from one 10 yrs ago). I'd agree that you are lucky. But then again, trying to get anything in or out of USH in summer (peak Antarctic cruise season) is unlikely given that flights seem full and AR is reported to be chronically overbooked on some flights.
#112
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: AA EP, Delta Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 79
MAD-LIM
Hi all. I've read through the forum and thanks for all the info.
The problem I have is it seems LAN reliably opens up partner award space on it's international routes around 330 days in advance. I just checked routes such as LIM-JFK and LIM-LAX and there is good business class availability.
However, the exception seems to be MAD-LIM which is the award I actually want to book! Does anybody know why this route has no availability? It seems to be the exception to the rule. Iberia also fly the route but LAN's departure time works better for us.
The problem I have is it seems LAN reliably opens up partner award space on it's international routes around 330 days in advance. I just checked routes such as LIM-JFK and LIM-LAX and there is good business class availability.
However, the exception seems to be MAD-LIM which is the award I actually want to book! Does anybody know why this route has no availability? It seems to be the exception to the rule. Iberia also fly the route but LAN's departure time works better for us.
#114
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 16
I'm trying to get award tickets from NYC to Santiago Chile (SCL) for November. Booking via BA Avios. Doesn't look like they currently have anything showing up.
Is my best bet to just keep checking every day? Maybe try alternate connecting routes?
Is my best bet to just keep checking every day? Maybe try alternate connecting routes?
#115
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,809
I booked LIM-MAD through BA to get back from my vacation to Rio de Janeiro and Buenos Aires (and possibly Santiago de Chile) in January.
Now I'm looking for awards to LIM from EZE or SCL to get home from there.
Unfortunately, nothing is available at the moment.
Do they usually make seats available at T-48, provided the flight isn't fully booked?
Finding an affordable Scoot ticket on SCL-LIM last minute probably shouldn't be a problem if the LA flight indeed is full.
But if there's little chance, I might as well find another solution already now, when tickets are still cheaper...
Also, is there a way to be notified when award space opens up?
It seems like ExpertFlyer doesn't support LA flights.
Thanks!
Thanks.
Now I'm looking for awards to LIM from EZE or SCL to get home from there.
Unfortunately, nothing is available at the moment.
Do they usually make seats available at T-48, provided the flight isn't fully booked?
Finding an affordable Scoot ticket on SCL-LIM last minute probably shouldn't be a problem if the LA flight indeed is full.
But if there's little chance, I might as well find another solution already now, when tickets are still cheaper...
Also, is there a way to be notified when award space opens up?
It seems like ExpertFlyer doesn't support LA flights.
Thanks!
Thanks.
#116
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
You get 200 free points to start when you join, and a simple one-way one-date search will use just a couple points per search method (BA and QF being the two search methods in the case of LATAM), and you can reload 100 points for free every 90 days (once you've almost used them up). If you need more points than that (say, because you're doing daily checks of multiple dates/routes) you can buy more points.
#117
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,809
Thanks. I found AwardNexus a bit difficult to use and it seems like you still need to purchase a premium membership for email notifications...?
I'll send them an email and ask if I'm doing something wrong.
Thanks!
I'll send them an email and ask if I'm doing something wrong.
Thanks!
#118
Join Date: May 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: UA, AS, Marriott, Hyatt
Posts: 46
I booked this same flight for an October flight back in May so about the same timeframe out. Maybe it has to do with November being more peak season in SCL.
#119
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: BA Gold, KrisFlyer Elite Gold, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 64
Any recent information on LATAM award availability when booking through BA? Checked for SCL-AKL a few days ago and found lots of available business seats for this route for a lot of different days. They're all gone today on BA but still available on Lanpass.
Any idea how to handle this and if there's a possibility to book those awards via BA?
Any idea how to handle this and if there's a possibility to book those awards via BA?