Korean Airlines Not for Us
#61
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I suspect the OP will be going through several airlines as they
discover rambunctious rug rats fly not only Korean but all the
other airlines as well.
Buying an extra seat should not raise your expectation that
the flight will be comfortable in all respects. It only means
that seat will be empty... nothing more nothing less.
I have low expectations when flying simply because much of
the experience is out of my control; however, my reaction is
well within my control... I can chose to have a bad day or to
make the best of it and enjoy myself.
discover rambunctious rug rats fly not only Korean but all the
other airlines as well.
Buying an extra seat should not raise your expectation that
the flight will be comfortable in all respects. It only means
that seat will be empty... nothing more nothing less.
I have low expectations when flying simply because much of
the experience is out of my control; however, my reaction is
well within my control... I can chose to have a bad day or to
make the best of it and enjoy myself.
Last edited by Paul56; Dec 15, 2014 at 2:39 pm
#62
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Not always, my wife flew a TPAC on OZ in Business. A mother and child were across the aisle from her. The child used the seat as a playground, climbing to the top and sliding down, generally jumping all over the tow seats. It was totally unsafe and very annoying. The FAs only smiled and said how cute the kid was.
I recently flew in F from IAH to HNL on UA. The three bulkhead seats were occupied by a mother, teenage daughter, and young son. The son screamed most of the flight and would not stay in his seat. The FAs repeatedly warned them, but to no avail.
I recently flew in F from IAH to HNL on UA. The three bulkhead seats were occupied by a mother, teenage daughter, and young son. The son screamed most of the flight and would not stay in his seat. The FAs repeatedly warned them, but to no avail.
2. Was the child interfering with your seat?
3. Is it any of your business if it was "unsafe"?
How was it "totally annoying"?
Or is this a case of you not liking being in the same breathing space as a child?
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#64
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You do the same as an adult - if a considerable number of other pax and crew think that you are terminally insane then you have partial evidence that it would also be annoying if a kid did it. Easy test.
#65
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yup.
And as some people have said, even then it's not a "guarantee."
OBVIOUSLY, it's not some sort of a fundamental human right to fly without being annoyed.
OBVIOUSLY, annoyances are more common in economy than in first class.
If you have a problem with those statements, I hope you find that unicorn airline in the future that's perfect and everyone is super ^
And as some people have said, even then it's not a "guarantee."
OBVIOUSLY, it's not some sort of a fundamental human right to fly without being annoyed.
OBVIOUSLY, annoyances are more common in economy than in first class.
If you have a problem with those statements, I hope you find that unicorn airline in the future that's perfect and everyone is super ^
Actually LH is the only airline I know who makes a serious and credible effort in telling children off and admonishing parents to administrate and control what they produced. And I appreciate it very much. Even the Japanese carriers are not as disciplined as LH.
And while ADD and just generally terrible kids sporadically occur anywhere, they are produced and pampered in Asia. If someone lets their brats scream around in the lounge or provides their 2 year old with a blaring DVD player and no headphones (as did a {ethnic reference removed by moderator - unnecessary to make poster's point} family recently in the SEN lounge on VIE), they are regarded as enormous sphincters.
But here people do this in concerts, cinemas, lectures ... why should a child that can barely grunt a few words not operate a cell phone during a late night movie screening? After all the whole world has to gyro around the terminally spoiled heir.
So is it a surprise that this happened on that route and that carrier and that neither management nor FAs could care one dime? Absolutely not.
Japan is the one glorious exception indeed.
And while ADD and just generally terrible kids sporadically occur anywhere, they are produced and pampered in Asia. If someone lets their brats scream around in the lounge or provides their 2 year old with a blaring DVD player and no headphones (as did a {ethnic reference removed by moderator - unnecessary to make poster's point} family recently in the SEN lounge on VIE), they are regarded as enormous sphincters.
But here people do this in concerts, cinemas, lectures ... why should a child that can barely grunt a few words not operate a cell phone during a late night movie screening? After all the whole world has to gyro around the terminally spoiled heir.
So is it a surprise that this happened on that route and that carrier and that neither management nor FAs could care one dime? Absolutely not.
Japan is the one glorious exception indeed.
Ha, Ha that happened to me once where the kicking was going on for at least half an hour and I politely asked the parents if they could tell their child if they please not do not (this child was old enough to know better). Eventually I just stood up, turned around and said in a loud voice to the kid that if he didn't stop that right now, I was going to have him arrested when he got off the plane (of course he didn't know that wasn't going to happen) but that stopped him promptly from doing it for the rest of the flight. Mother didn't say a word.
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I have two children that have traveled extensively. We have not ever allowed them to "act out" on an airplane.
Its just as annoying as an unruly adult on a flight, loud, usually drunk and yes annoying.
My view in any class of service is to be respectful of those around me.
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A toddler a few feet from you bouncing around is simply annoying. Yes he was loud. The unsafe part is my business as if we hit bad turbulence and the kid becomes a flying object that may strike someone, then yes it is my business.
I have two children that have traveled extensively. We have not ever allowed them to "act out" on an airplane.
Its just as annoying as an unruly adult on a flight, loud, usually drunk and yes annoying.
My view in any class of service is to be respectful of those around me.
I have two children that have traveled extensively. We have not ever allowed them to "act out" on an airplane.
Its just as annoying as an unruly adult on a flight, loud, usually drunk and yes annoying.
My view in any class of service is to be respectful of those around me.
My mom and dad did a good job with me on that. Even now, I mind my own space, I help people with their luggage in putting it up in the bins if they need, not kick someone's seat for reclining, and generally try to be a productive and respectable member of society.
Bad parenting leads to bratty kids becoming idiotic adults.
When I have my own little mini-pathfinder, I'll love my kid but I'm still going to be a parent. I will not stand for bad behavior.
#68
A toddler a few feet from you bouncing around is simply annoying. Yes he was loud. The unsafe part is my business as if we hit bad turbulence and the kid becomes a flying object that may strike someone, then yes it is my business.
I have two children that have traveled extensively. We have not ever allowed them to "act out" on an airplane.
Its just as annoying as an unruly adult on a flight, loud, usually drunk and yes annoying.
My view in any class of service is to be respectful of those around me.
I have two children that have traveled extensively. We have not ever allowed them to "act out" on an airplane.
Its just as annoying as an unruly adult on a flight, loud, usually drunk and yes annoying.
My view in any class of service is to be respectful of those around me.
Excellent parenting. Thank you for your service and thoughtfulness.
To the OP: Korean Air doesn't give a s*** about in-cabin problems or complaints. I gave up trying to get justice for any problems we had before on there.
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Hmmm
Korean air guest service for reply of inquiry thru online seems doesn't work. I also asked the location of Korean air office in male. No one reply since last year.
Hmmmm. Think of which airline I can fly to Korea.
Anyway have a good day!
Hmmmm. Think of which airline I can fly to Korea.
Anyway have a good day!
Last edited by divian; Mar 20, 2015 at 8:45 pm Reason: Too long
#70
Cathay or Singapore airlines perhaps?
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