Thanks for the translation, orbitmic, and the clarification re AF E+. I guess I was getting confused with the "Alizé" mini-cabin on AF's COI flights, which, I believe, do have 'enhanced' service (the advert on the website says something like, "get a taste of Affaires").
As a PE I appreciate this but one of the advantages of the select seating was that my non-Elite spouse could join me in the select section. Now we will either have to fork out up to 150 euro or we'll both sit in the Economy Discomfort section.
Availability on all aircraft from December seems to imply that the AVOD installation in the B744 fleet might be on a fast track after all.
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As a PE I appreciate this but one of the advantages of the select seating was that my non-Elite spouse could join me in the select section. Now we will either have to fork out up to 150 euro or we'll both sit in the Economy Discomfort section.
Availability on all aircraft from December seems to imply that the AVOD installation in the B744 fleet might be on a fast track after all.
Yep. Incidentally, having looked at the photos (following the link from the English version) I'll admit that it looks less than spectacular. After all, 10 cm extra legroom while nice, is not 'fantastic', and as the KL seats don't recline much, double the current recline probably takes it close-ish to the regular AF recline with the new seats?
Well glad that for PE's it's indeed free as I'd posted earlier (heard it from a reliable source at KLM...).
I hear that 1x747 has been reconfigured already, it's PH-BFM, one row (row 18) has been removed and the seats re-aligned
Also 3 MD-11's but don't know all the registrations yet but definitely KCA is one of them.
If you fly on one of these, let us know how it is please!
So it would appear that while giving Gold's and Plat's the seat choice option just a short time ago, they are taking the benefit away from Gold's unless they want to shell out €40-75. Unless, they keep the seat choice and have this as well. That is definitely not clear and like I said the way for other ST E+ FFPs.
I can't stop wondering what it will be like to be seated in the first row of normal Y behind the last row of Eco+. Will the seat recline of the seats in the last row of Eco+ still be double and make you, in Eco, feel "trapped" or will this last row of Eco+ have normal recline, and just extra seat pitch?
I can't stop wondering what it will be like to be seated in the first row of normal Y behind the last row of Eco+. Will the seat recline of the seats in the last row of Eco+ still be double and make you, in Eco, feel "trapped" or will this last row of Eco+ have normal recline, and just extra seat pitch?
The E+ seats are in a hard shell, and won't interfere with the space behind them (at least on AF)
Doesn't look very appealing to me. I much prefer the Air France solution. Had KLM adopted the Air France type seat they would have become my airline of choice. This appears to be a nice product for free upgrades for elite members but not worth the extra $ for so little added comfort.
Aah, but the AF seats are genuine Voyageur Premium (E+); I don't think any FB elite/elite+ folks will be getting discount/free offers for these at booking or OLCI time ... just the occasional op-up, more like.
Although, having said that, I have had OLCI offer me the former Tempo Challenge on AF short-hauls a few times, and that included (almost) C-class service!
This KL approach seems to be more of an 'enhanced preferred seat' option (for a few extra spondooliks, if they can get them, or to appease FB Plats, if not) rather than a Premium Economy class per se.
