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The Great KLM Aircraft and Seating Guide
Ladies and Gentlemen,
It gives me enormous personal pleasure to introduce the all-new
Great KLM Aircraft & Seating Guide
Graciously updated by our own Gajan and current as of 18 May 2009
Herein it is hoped that you will find everything you could ever want to know about the aircraft KLM fly, the seating and IFE options, which seats to choose, and which to avoid.
None of this would have been possible without the tireless efforts of Flying Blue Forum member Gajan, who searched and researched long into the night for weeks on end. Everyone be sure to thank him, and maybe treat him to a beer or slice of cheese the next time you're in the Shengen lounge.
I've locked this thread to keep it neat and tidy. Please direct all your questions, complaints, discussion, and smart-assed comments about what difference does it make since nobody's flying them anymore anyway to the new thread made just for that purpose. All the old questions and discussion from this thread have been preserved there as well.
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Boeing 747 – 400
General Information
Number in fleet: Full Passenger: 5 Combi: 17
Number of pax:
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™: 42
Economy Class: Full Passenger: 388 Combi: 236
Did you know: When pressurized, a 747 fuselage holds over a ton of air.
The 747 is mainly used on routes: JNB, CUR, CGK, KUL, JFK, SXM, YYZ
The 747 Combi is mainly used on routes: LAX, KUL, JFK, SIN, CGK, HKG, PEK, PVG, BKK, TPE, ORD, ICN, MEX, JFK
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™:
Video IFE: 12 TV & Video Channels + 1 Channel Flight Tracking
Audio IFE: 12 Audio Channels + 2 Channels for the Films
Economy Class:
Video IFE: Overhead TV Monitors
Audio IFE: 12 Audio Channels + 2 Channels for the Films
I've sat in 1A and 4F, and both were ok, though 1A seems kinda tight when you don't know the person next to you, and 4F had quite a bit of traffic to the galley and restrooms.
While some guys prefer the exit row, I always go for row 80 with absolutely no traffic passing by, cause KLM was smart enough to have the two lavs right behind the cockpit door.
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™:
Video IFE: 12 TV & Video Channels + 1 Channel Flight Tracking
Audio IFE: 12 Audio Channels + 2 Channels for the Films
Economy Class:
Video IFE: Overhead TV Monitors
Audio IFE: 12 Audio Channels + 2 Channels for the Films
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Boeing 777 Series
General Information
Number in fleet: 10
Number of pax:
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™: 35
Economy Class: 292
Did you know: The 777's undercarriage is the largest ever used in a commercial jetliner, and its tires are the largest ever fitted to a commercial aircraft (presumably this is no longer true thanks to a certain Airbus).
The 777 is mainly used on routes: DEL, JFK, CAI, CPT, GRU, DUB, MNL, EWR, KIX, NRT, NBO
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen
Economy Class:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen
World Business Class Featuring That Little House Filled With Hard Liquor™
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 10.4" screen
Economy Class:
Video IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen
Audio IFE: Audio & Video on Demand, 5.6" screen
Other Useful Information
Last saleable seats in WBC: 7DG (next to cabin divider)
Last saleable seats in Economy: 11EF (limited view video screen) & 25AB, 25HJ (limited recline)
Bassinet Positions:
WBC: 1AB 1DG 1HJ (in front of double seat center)
WBC: 6AB 6DG 6HJ (in front of double seat center)
Economy: 10AB 10DEG 10HJ (in front of the middle row)
Economy: 30DE 30FG (in front of the double seat center)
Commuter Class**
Pitch: 31”-32”
Seating Plan [F50]: 2-0, 2-2
Seating Plan [F70]: 2-3
Seating Plan [F100]: 2-0, 2-3
Video IFE: None
Audio IFE: PA System
Other Useful Information
Extra legspace seat: 1d plus seats 11a/c/d/e/f
Last saleable seats: 17a/c/d/e/f
Cradle positions: none
Pets: only 1 petc on row 15 or row 16
Note: ** A few years ago KLM reintroduced Europe Select to the Fokker Family. However, the difference on experiences here is only in the meal-service. The seat is exactly the same as the seat in Economy Class. For this reason Europe Select and Economy Class are not called out.
