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Old Dec 20, 08, 5:33 pm   #1
 
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Advice requested--Northwest weather

My family is booked on tonight's SEA-BOS redeye flight. We're pretty determined to get to the East Coast, so I'm willing to get to the airport if there's any chance the flight will actually get out. I don't want to fight through the snow to the airport at 9pm only to find that the flight has already been cancelled because they use the airplane that's here to fly to JFK instead of BOS like last night...

So... Is there any decent source of additional information beyond re-checking the normal flight status page? Is there any way to know when/if B6 will add an extra flight or two to handle some/all of the people who won't otherwise have a seat for the rest of this week?
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Old Dec 20, 08, 8:17 pm   #2
 
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Good luck

So far it looks like the plane is on time, but if you get cancelled make sure you know of all the different ways to get to BOS from SEA . Besides the non stops you could go thru Long Beach or JFK or Long Beach and IAD .
Sometimes creative routings may help get you there sooner (also look at the weather map to see where the bad weather is ) . You may need to think creatively inorder to get to BOS (within a day of your desired departure). Be polite to the gate agents or the res people and they can help you.
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Old Dec 20, 08, 10:39 pm   #3
 
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man talk about havoc on both coasts. You're gonna be up for a tough one tonight. you obviously know that there's a big snow event here in SEA which is quite rare so it's causing a lot of delays.


As long as the planes are on their way you'll get there eventually because the plane coming from BOS usually turns around and goes back right away..even with the same crew! I don't know about tonight however.

Just checking flightview.com now and says that 497 BOS-SEA has been or is currently being diverted to Spokane (GEG)?? I'm not sure that's a better choice than Seattle now because they've got more snow than we do!

Also if your flight gets canceled you can try to get routed through SAN to get to BOS tomorrow.

Good luck

Update of West coast(SEA, PDX): 10:18PST Looks like they've changed the diversion of 497 to SLC instead of Spokane which makes much more sense.
OP's Flight 498 SEA-BOS Canceled due to inbound diversion to SLC.
JFK-SEA Finally Canceled.
SEA-JFK 86 Canceled
JFK-PDX Canceled.

They're going to have a heck of time getting these people where they need to go...especially with one flight a day! SEA-BOS cancelled two days in a row!

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Old Dec 20, 08, 11:26 pm   #4
 
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help getting to Spokane from Seattle

Any ideas on how to get to Spokane from Seattle? All flights are cancelled and looks like no flights till Monday. 10 guys trying to get home from basketball game.
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Old Dec 20, 08, 11:59 pm   #5
 
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Any ideas on how to get to Spokane from Seattle? All flights are cancelled and looks like no flights till Monday. 10 guys trying to get home from basketball game.
this should be poseted in the west coast forum. but since it's here..i would probably say that you're going to be stuck there till flights are able to get in and out. Driving is also a no go because a part of the pass is closed at the moment. It's nasty out here in the greater NW right now!
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Old Dec 21, 08, 1:00 am   #6
 
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OP's Flight 498 SEA-BOS Canceled due to inbound diversion to SLC.

They're going to have a heck of time getting these people where they need to go...especially with one flight a day! SEA-BOS cancelled two days in a row!
At the airport, they told us that the cancellation was because of the weather, not lack of aircraft... I actually talked to the pilot who was supposed to fly 86 to JFK, and he said the problem was that with a slippery runway, the allowed maximum sidewind has to be lowered, so it was just too windy to safely take off. (It also sounded like they couldn't wait it out due to crew rest requirements; I'm not sure why in these cases they don't have the pilot stay in bed until midnight so that he can fly the plane at 5am if that's when it's possible, but whatever.)

So anyway, they promised us that they're working hard to add an extra flight tomorrow or the next day, and bringing up the spare from LGB, but we'll just have to see. Looking forward to my third attempt...
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Old Dec 21, 08, 8:58 am   #7
 
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So anyway, they promised us that they're working hard to add an extra flight tomorrow or the next day, and bringing up the spare from LGB, but we'll just have to see. Looking forward to my third attempt...
We got rebooked onto a newly created 1pm flight 4098 from SEA-BOS, just checked in and only 1/4 of the seats show full, but I'm guessing that's just because the people camped at the airport haven't woken up yet.

Weather has calmed down here, so we'll see...
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Old Dec 21, 08, 9:17 am   #8
 
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We got rebooked onto a newly created 1pm flight 4098 from SEA-BOS, just checked in and only 1/4 of the seats show full, but I'm guessing that's just because the people camped at the airport haven't woken up yet.

Weather has calmed down here, so we'll see...
I'm guessing that plane is coming from SLC because that's where 497 diverted to last night. This is gonna be a big challenge for Seattle Ops for B6 in the next few days. I use to work there so I know exactly how crazy things can get once a flight gets canceled 3 flights canceled in 2 days. Looks like 86 couldn't get out either last night! At least now they have the LGB, SAN flights which they can attempt to book people on if there's space. While I was there it was only the two flights p/day and only 10 staff! so we would be there all night!
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Old Dec 21, 08, 3:34 pm   #9
 
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Looks like all Jetblue flights in into and out of SEA have today have been canceled! with exception to the SAN flight which left this morning. What a big mess!

It's going to take a LONG time for this to get back to normal! SEA-BOS 3 days canceled and counting. We're suppose to get better weather soon hopefully.
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Old Dec 21, 08, 3:59 pm   #10
 
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What a big mess!
Indeed. The frustrating part today is it seems like the issue was that they're out of "type 4 de-icing fluid", whatever that is. Back to hoping for extra flights tomorrow...
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Old Dec 21, 08, 7:34 pm   #11
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Indeed. The frustrating part today is it seems like the issue was that they're out of "type 4 de-icing fluid", whatever that is. Back to hoping for extra flights tomorrow...
That is the stuff that prevents you from crashing on takeoff due to ice on the lift surfaces. Probably a good idea to make sure you've got it before trying to take off.

That strikes me as an airport issue more than a carrier issue. Were other carriers canceling flights for the same reason?
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Old Dec 21, 08, 8:08 pm   #12
 
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That strikes me as an airport issue more than a carrier issue. Were other carriers canceling flights for the same reason?
Yes, B6 was saying it was an airport problem, but it appears some carriers have their own supplies and weren't affected, or perhaps I was misunderstanding.

Also I've heard that there are trucks trying to bring more de-icing fluid, but they can't get over the pass on I-90 because of the snow....
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Old Dec 21, 08, 8:11 pm   #13
 
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That is the stuff that prevents you from crashing on takeoff due to ice on the lift surfaces. Probably a good idea to make sure you've got it before trying to take off.

That strikes me as an airport issue more than a carrier issue. Were other carriers canceling flights for the same reason?
yup it's been an issue since the beginning of the storm...no decier because the company the port gets it from in canada went on strike. they say that they'll get some more tomorrow. the weather hasnt been cooperating either. heavy snow at times and we're not use to this much at one time. So add those two together it's not a pretty story.

Numerous airlines have suspended all flights in and out of Seattle since this afternoon including Alaska which has the most flights in/out of here.
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Old Dec 22, 08, 11:52 am   #14
 
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any news about operations today?

still hoping for news about an extra section to BOS or JFK today or tomorrow... also hoping that tonight's flights make it out, even though I'll be frustrated that I'm not on them, because at least that will mean things are getting closer to normal.

The "weather alert" link from the jetblue.com page is completely blank at the moment... I'd feel much better if I had some information about what steps are being taken to handle the backlog of people stuck here.
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Old Dec 22, 08, 12:35 pm   #15
 
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looks like 497 BOS-SEA canceled tonight already. That flight usually turns and goes to JFK. which means that SEA-JFK is gone tonight. the flight from LGB which turns and goes to BOS looks like it's going to operate tonight but an hour late...which is a good sign for your davidmay.
The weather looks like it's letting up a bit today!

What is Jetblue doing for the customer's in this situation? doesnt look like a travel alert/waiver has been issued even though i would definitely consider this to be a major disruption in travel. 4 days in a row SEA-BOS canceled and counting! It's going to take more than one shuttle flight to get everyone out.
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