JetBlue Flight 191 Pilot sues Airline
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This pilot needs proper psychological treatment. That is it.
Zero money, if I am on the jury! Take a look at the video of this guy, the passengers had to hold him down. That is JetBlue's problem?
Perhaps JetBlue needs to VET their employees better. This is not the first time.
JetBlue needs to lawyer up and give this guy zero. The pilot says his name was smeared in the media. Who caused that?
This pilot needs proper psychological treatment. That is it.
Zero money, if I am on the jury! Take a look at the video of this guy, the passengers had to hold him down. That is JetBlue's problem?
Perhaps JetBlue needs to VET their employees better. This is not the first time.
JetBlue needs to lawyer up and give this guy zero. The pilot says his name was smeared in the media. Who caused that?
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Maybe JetBlue could settle this dispute by admitting that they should have nipped this problem in the bud by not hiring him.
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Did some of the preceding posters even read the linked article?!?!
The guy is suing because he feels the airline should have easily spotted that he was not fit to fly (appearance, demeanour, disorientation, missed pre-flight briefing all allegedly indicating that something was wrong). He is not arguing that he was fit to fly.
It is irrelevant how many people it took to hold him down. As to the compensation... If the airline is shown to have been negligent by allowing him to fly that day... he and all others on board may be rightly entitled.
If the pilot has good evidence, this will be interesting to watch.
The guy is suing because he feels the airline should have easily spotted that he was not fit to fly (appearance, demeanour, disorientation, missed pre-flight briefing all allegedly indicating that something was wrong). He is not arguing that he was fit to fly.
It is irrelevant how many people it took to hold him down. As to the compensation... If the airline is shown to have been negligent by allowing him to fly that day... he and all others on board may be rightly entitled.
If the pilot has good evidence, this will be interesting to watch.
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By the way, in the Germanwings case, I am sure the French prosecutor will be looking at airport surveillance to observe the first officer's pre-flight behaviour. Depending on what - if anything - shows up in these tapes, the criminal responsibility and civil liability issues might surface there as well (e.g. against the airline, the airport, individuals).
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Did some of the preceding posters even read the linked article?!?!
The guy is suing because he feels the airline should have easily spotted that he was not fit to fly (appearance, demeanour, disorientation, missed pre-flight briefing all allegedly indicating that something was wrong). He is not arguing that he was fit to fly.
It is irrelevant how many people it took to hold him down. As to the compensation... If the airline is shown to have been negligent by allowing him to fly that day... he and all others on board may be rightly entitled.
If the pilot has good evidence, this will be interesting to watch.
The guy is suing because he feels the airline should have easily spotted that he was not fit to fly (appearance, demeanour, disorientation, missed pre-flight briefing all allegedly indicating that something was wrong). He is not arguing that he was fit to fly.
It is irrelevant how many people it took to hold him down. As to the compensation... If the airline is shown to have been negligent by allowing him to fly that day... he and all others on board may be rightly entitled.
If the pilot has good evidence, this will be interesting to watch.
While I understand what you are saying blue2002 (or paraphrasing from the article), does that really make sense? Should your employer send you to a pysch eval if you miss a phone call or are frazzled? It's pretty common to see people worked up before/during the early parts of a presentation, after running late to something, after speaking to certain people and the list goes on; are they in imminent danger of a "severe mental disease or defect"?
Pilots are supposed to evaluate themselves before flights and gauge risk. It's part of ADM (Aeronautical Decision Making http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...cumentid/22624) process. I am only familiar with the scoring for private aviation, but surely the pilot should have realized there was some concern.
The former pilot should count his blessings that he's not in prison or paying for the diversion and move on. It's sad his career is over, but I'm sure he can still find work in the industry.
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So he doesn't exist yet, the final report will not be in for a long time, and still you are convinced that he'll try to smear some residual blame on those who did not kill 150 people?
Depending on what - if anything - shows up in these tapes, the criminal responsibility and civil liability issues might surface there as well (e.g. against the airline, the airport, individuals).
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In France, civil aviation accidents are investigated, automatically, as criminal acts. In the Germanwings case, the States Attorney of Marseille is investigating as is the BEA (Bureau d'Enqutes et d'Analyses pour la scurit de l'aviation civile).
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Should your employer send you to a pysch eval if you miss a phone call or are frazzled? It's pretty common to see people worked up before/during the early parts of a presentation, after running late to something, after speaking to certain people and the list goes on; are they in imminent danger of a "severe mental disease or defect"?
Pilots are supposed to evaluate themselves before flights and gauge risk. It's part of ADM (Aeronautical Decision Making http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...cumentid/22624) process.
The former pilot should count his blessings that he's not in prison or paying for the diversion and move on.
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I'd urge you to consider the legal and common sense ramifications of this case by expanding outside these specific set of facts. Should anyone with a role in public safety be subject to a mental/pysch eval at the drop of a hat? Driving puts "human lives in the balance" and is more dangerous than flying, so are all drivers included? Do the benefits here really outweigh the costs? What happens in a disaster, are all persons immediately sent home to await mental/pysch evals before they can begin their duties? It sounds crazy but that's what is being advocated.
Put your example in context of the complaint: sales person missed one call and seemed distracted but able to discuss the sales points with others in immediate preparation for the meeting. Happens all the time. People get nervous or have other items on their mind.
ADM and CRM are more important than ever. Crews need to work together and monitor each other to prevent minor incidents from becoming major accidents, including honest self assessments.
Put your example in context of the complaint: sales person missed one call and seemed distracted but able to discuss the sales points with others in immediate preparation for the meeting. Happens all the time. People get nervous or have other items on their mind.
ADM and CRM are more important than ever. Crews need to work together and monitor each other to prevent minor incidents from becoming major accidents, including honest self assessments.
Last edited by rayikes; Mar 31, 2015 at 11:04 am