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Buying a high quality kitchen knife in Tokyo/Osaka

Old Dec 12, 2008, 7:51 am
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Buying a high quality kitchen knife in Tokyo/Osaka

I would like to buy a very high quality kitchen knife on my trip to Japan. I am looking for something handmade and of superior quality, and also somewhat unique but still practical. I was thinking something along the lines of the knife Anthony Bourdain buys from a small shop (I think in Kyoto, but may be wrong), if anyone's seen the episode. We will be in Tokyo, Nagano, Osaka, and day trips to Hiroshima, Kyoto, and maybe Kobe. Thanks for the help.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 9:22 am
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I've just done a quick search on amazon.co.jp with the keyword "包丁(hocho)" or Japanese kitchen knives.
The results are sorted by price from high to low.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/qid=122939...9A&sort=-price

I am a Japanese and I am surpirsed to find there are such expensive kitchen knives like these in this country.
Looks like they are mailly for high-end chefs.

I know high price does not necessarily mean high quality.
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Old Dec 12, 2008, 12:14 pm
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We picked up two knives from Aritsugu during our trip this spring. They're located in Kyoto's Nishiki Market, which itself was a fun experience. You can look them up on the Internet yourself but in short, they've been making knives for hundreds of years and their origins are from sword crafting.

It's a somewhat small shop so it was kind of crowded. Very helpful staff though. The person who helped us spoke very good English, despite her modesty saying she only spoke a little, and took her time explaining things to us.

We picked up a Yanagiba style sashimi knife (long slender) and a kansai style Usuba knife (standard chef's/kitchen utility). The sashimi knife has gotten less use as we only use it once in a blue moon when we make maki or sashimi. We use the Usuba knife pretty regularly. It's pretty much a standard chef's knife. Both are fairly light (compared to our Henkels) with a wooden handle.

You have some options in your selection. There are different lengths of course. Some knives have one or two sided blades (left or right handed if you choose single bladed). You also can choose carbon steel or stainless. We chose a carbon steel blade since it holds its edge better but of course it'll rust if you don't give it the attention it needs.
They'll also engrave your name on the blade.

The two knives ended up around $250CDN. I'm sure they had higher end knives but we're just wannabe's in the kitchen. [Plus, my wife was watching me and our budget like a hawk. ] They don't take credit cards so bring a chunk of Yen.

Didn't do enough research that I would have liked but I believe there are also some very good knife stores in the outer areas of the Tsukiji fish market. I think Aritsugu has a branch there too.

http://www.aritsugu.com/

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Old Dec 12, 2008, 1:18 pm
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Isn't this the kind of thing where you'd also definitely want to check out the stores in Kappabashi "kitchen town" (not far from Asakusa temple)?
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The thread got me looking at Aritsugu and Anthony Bourdain on the Internet so here are a couple of other things I came across:

There is an Aritsugu location in Tokyo-Tsukiji. Here's a good read on the difference between the two shops http://www.foodieforums.com/vbulleti...ead.php?t=6048

When I did a search on Anthony Bourdain and knives, I found a couple of references where he mentions he recommends Global knives which are a Japanese brand of stainless steel knives. However, I don't think they're hand crafted if that's what the OP is looking for.
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There is a restaurant, kitchen supply street just to the east of the Nankai Namba Station in Osaka. On this street there is a large cutlery store. My friend brought a few Kyocera ceramic knifes there.
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Old Dec 22, 2008, 4:23 pm
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Kappabashi Market in Tokyo

You might find what you are looking for at Kappabashi Market, a street near Asakusa Shrine area in Tokyo. This street has plenty of professional kitchen supplies.
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Old Dec 26, 2008, 6:13 pm
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We went to Aritsugu in Kyoto. Absolutely wonderful experience. The knives look great and we are very excited to go back to the States to cook with them. Staff was helpful and did their best despite limited (but adequate) English skills. The knives were engraved with our names in Japanese script free of charge. The shop had no trouble putting different names on different knives, as some were gifts. Price wise, i bought a small knife for vegetables and a large Santouku for 18600 yen.

I am (so far) a very satisfied customer.
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Glad you like them! I bought a knife there in March of 2006. It has served me well and is one of my most-prized (and useful!) souvenirs from abroad.
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Great idea, and great souvenir!

Years ago when Anthony Bourdain wasn't old enough to smoke and I'd never heard of Henkels, or Forschner I bought several knives directly from butchers.

First was a heavy steel clever from a butcher in an Asian market (in San Diego) exactly what he was using. Great for cutting pizza or slaying a deer. Still one of my favorites.

Second were two Forschner "french chef" 10" knives from our local butcher through his supplier. $30 each as I recall AT THE TIME.

Then a friend in Los Angeles had sort of a connection with the folks who sharpen and rent knives to chefs. Got 5 Forschners of various sizes but the blades were seriously thinned out by the constant sharpening. Visualize large paring knives. A very nice piece of equipment.

This was over 30 years ago! and those knives are still my absolute favorites!

Two years ago my mother moved to a retirement home and we found a real treasure: the 30 year old Forschner chef knife that we gave as a gift and it had never been used! Identical to the one we've loved over the years, the blade is at least 1/4 inch wider and 20% thicker than the one we've been using and honing for 30 years. I's really nice to have this brand-new, so to speak, replacement.]

Word of advice: magnetic bars to hold the knives, and remember to point all the cutting edges in the same direction.
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Old Dec 27, 2008, 6:10 am
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I personally like the Misono UX10 line of knives. Light, well-balanced & sharp enough to converse at a mabo-fest.

A good place for knives in Kappabashi is the Union Commerce store. (This is an english link because the store website is nihongo only). Service in the store is bi-lingual & the owner is a gem. FWIW, he may try to steer you into their own line of knives (sharp, but too heavy for my tastes).

See also: Union Commerce.
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Bumping this old thread because I am trying to find a place to buy a reasonably priced hand-made cleaver style knife in Tokyo. It doesn't need to be super high end, but I'd rather find something of very high quality and pedigree, but with a reasonable price (around US200 or less).

A few years ago I visited a shop near Tsukiji that was well known for their knives and was a small family owned company, but they were sold out of stainless cleavers and we were not sure about buying a carbon blade and worrying about rusting.

I can't remember the name of that shop, but I hope someone can recommend an independent, small company that makes truly stellar knives at a reasonable price.
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Old Oct 23, 2016, 9:46 pm
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You might try this place:

http://www.kiya-hamono.co.jp/english/shop-e.html

They have a store above Mitsukoshimae Station, across the street from the Mandarin Oriental. Prices are generally in the $100-$300 range and can be checked online at this Japanese site: http://www.ameyokonet.jp/kiya/item_l..._category_id=1
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Old Oct 23, 2016, 11:09 pm
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Kiya is a good choice. Here are reviews of a few more professional knife shops in Tokyo, with maps.
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Old Oct 23, 2016, 11:33 pm
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Thank you! Kiya looks interesting as does Sugimoto, but now I remember it was Masamoto I visited before, but I will give both Kiya and Masamoto a visit this trip.
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