Very long layover at KIX / Osaka Kansai airport
#16
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You really don't have any choice but to wait until you get to KIX to buy your ticket to Osaka or Kyoto as there is no easy way to purchase in advance from outside Japan.
#17
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Flying back to LAX on JL728 from BKK to Osaka, Kansai International TERMINAL 1. Looks like I am going to be there a while. My flight lands at 6:30 am and my flight out to LAX leaves at 5:30 pm.
I would rather not venture out too far. Just want to take in a little bit of the local flavor...Lunch (where is a good japanese place?) ... maybe a little shopping...
I heard Namba is not too far away? Plenty of time to get back to the airport? Would bus or train be better? Can you tell me exactly where to go to buy tickets to Namba? How is the line at Customs/Immigration coming back?
Is this doable? What time should I head back? What should I be worried about? So many questions... sorry. Just didn't want to sit at the airport for 11 hours.
Thanks in advance.
I would rather not venture out too far. Just want to take in a little bit of the local flavor...Lunch (where is a good japanese place?) ... maybe a little shopping...
I heard Namba is not too far away? Plenty of time to get back to the airport? Would bus or train be better? Can you tell me exactly where to go to buy tickets to Namba? How is the line at Customs/Immigration coming back?
Is this doable? What time should I head back? What should I be worried about? So many questions... sorry. Just didn't want to sit at the airport for 11 hours.
Thanks in advance.
Once you're through Immigration and Customs, just follow the bilingual signs for ground transportation. It's been a while since I've done this, so check out the Kansai Airport website for more exact information.
Probably the most interesting area around Namba is Dotonbori, which is a few blocks north. Otherwise, you can get on the Osaka Kanjo (Loop) Line, which circles the inner part of the city, and ride it counterclockwise to Osaka Castle, which is a postwar reconstruction but will give you an idea of what samurai castles were like.
As far as food is concerned, I guess you haven't been to Japan before, because that country has more restaurants in more places than you would believe, and most of the affordable ones have either picture menus or plastic models of the food in the display windows. For me the problem has always been not where to eat but which of the dozens of choices to eliminate.
Japan is one of the safest developed countries in the world, and your absolute worst case scenario would be pickpockets, but even they are rare. I would suggest not going into bars that have touts outside or that promise erotic adventures, because they tend to be clip joints, especially if they get their hands on a tourist.
If you're from a country that drives on the right side of the road, be aware that Japan drives on the left, so your street-crossing habits may need a bit of adjustment.
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Thanks for suggestions so far. HyperDia suggests the LTD. EXP HARUKA 6 will take 96 minutes, as opposed to 75. Is that right?
I am worried I will not make the 07:27 landing at 06:30; for that reason I'm tempted to wait until I land to purchase the ticket, in case the flight is delayed. Does that seem sensible?
I am worried I will not make the 07:27 landing at 06:30; for that reason I'm tempted to wait until I land to purchase the ticket, in case the flight is delayed. Does that seem sensible?
There is no reason though to purchase a ticket before you arrive, trains have plenty of capacity unless peak Japanese holiday periods. Actually I don't even know of a way to purchase tickets ahead of time outside of Japan, but you can make reservations for tickets on some lines. In these cases you don't actually pay until you pick up the ticket anyway and the reservation automatically cancels about 10 minutes before departure if you haven't picked it up yet.
#19
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One or two stops from KIX on the local JR train, there is an outlet mall with some amusement park rides. If you just want a break, that will work although I doubt that it opens before 10am.
#20
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Here's an alternate idea. From KIX, take the high-speed ferry to Kobe. Walk around Kobe area for shopping, something to eat, etc. Lots of things to see in a less hectic and more compact space than Osaka. Maybe take ropeway to top of Mt. Rokko. Return by ferry to KIX at end of day.
If you want historical sites and old Japan, then Kyoto is best, or maybe Himeji Castle. If you want the hectic downtown Japan feel, then Nanba works. If you want a bit less hectic, but want to walk around and window shop, then Kobe might be good.
If you want historical sites and old Japan, then Kyoto is best, or maybe Himeji Castle. If you want the hectic downtown Japan feel, then Nanba works. If you want a bit less hectic, but want to walk around and window shop, then Kobe might be good.
#21
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Osaka is awesome. As someone mentioned, 06:30 is too early for most things. Stuff doesn't really open until at least 09:00 or 10:00 -- sometimes 11:00.
Dotonbori is a major tourist spot. If you visit Osaka as a tourist, I think you're required to visit or something. =D Good food, good shopping, good people watching, but suuuuper crowded. Shinsaibashi has lots of upscale shopping, if you're into that. You can also kill quite a bit of time just walking the sennichimae shopping arcade north/south from Shinsaibashi, past Namba, and down to Nihonbashi. Nihonbashi is sort of a mini-Akihabara. Anime stuff, electric/electronics stuff, otaku stuff, that sorta thing.
Near tenma station is an absolutely huge shopping arcade.
Food is huge in Osaka. Takoyaki and Okonomiyaki are probably two of the most "Osaka" dishes around. They're awesome. But there's also some really good tonkotsu ramen around.
I... I don't even know. There's a ton of stuff in Osaka. This isn't a country village. >.>
Art Museum?
Historical Museum?
Aquarium?
Castle?
Banpaku Koen?
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zebrametalevel, if you want a very Osaka-esque experience, head to Tenma Station and have a beer, kimchi tempura, and "Ethiopia" (fried pigs feet) at Tajima-ya. Open from 9 AM for your convenience You can complete your morning by wandering through the warrens of the Tenjinbashi shopping arcade.
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So, for those of us who arrived blurry eyed at 6am, and thought to shower and get our bearings at the lounge by going to the 'transfer', instead of immigration. But only to discover that the lounge really is that dismal and it appears clearing immigration is no longer possible. Thus the question is, is there any way to get out of here and actually clear immigration now? There are lockers at the lounge, but staff here don't seem to think that going into Japan is possible now (or thats what it seems for the extremely limited Japanese I can understand).
Otherwise I guess this is going to be a 10 hour bender on beer and sake... :/
Otherwise I guess this is going to be a 10 hour bender on beer and sake... :/
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So, for those of us who arrived blurry eyed at 6am, and thought to shower and get our bearings at the lounge by going to the 'transfer', instead of immigration. But only to discover that the lounge really is that dismal and it appears clearing immigration is no longer possible. Thus the question is, is there any way to get out of here and actually clear immigration now? There are lockers at the lounge, but staff here don't seem to think that going into Japan is possible now (or thats what it seems for the extremely limited Japanese I can understand).
Otherwise this is going to be a 10 hour sake bender... :/
Otherwise this is going to be a 10 hour sake bender... :/
#27
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Generally in Japanese airports, once you go through transit security there is no direct way back to immigration. You will need the staff to escort you back to the arrivals level. Which they are going to be reluctant to do. So you may well be "stuck" at the departure area for the day..
#28
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Best of luck. For future reference, there's a landside manga cafe / lounge with showers that you can pay to access. Saves the hassle of entering Japan from the gate areas.
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Giving this thread a bump and see if there is any recommendation for a 5 hour layover in kansai. We will have 5 hours (basically during the middle of the day) in between flights in Kansai next month. Is it worthwhile to head somewhere to walk around and have some food? Or just hang out in JAL lounge?
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Giving this thread a bump and see if there is any recommendation for a 5 hour layover in kansai. We will have 5 hours (basically during the middle of the day) in between flights in Kansai next month. Is it worthwhile to head somewhere to walk around and have some food? Or just hang out in JAL lounge?
Thanks,
Thanks,