Access to Sakura Lounge SFO> HND > KIX at Haneda?
Oct 31, 2014, 1:11 pm
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Access to Sakura Lounge SFO> HND > KIX at Haneda?
I'm looking a booking the above route in May and the SFO > HND route would be in J class, but the HND to KIX would be on Y.
What is the policy of lounge access in between flights when switching from international to domestic as well as classes? Will I even be allowed access? Also, my understanding is that the lounge is currently under renovations. Is there an ETA as to when this will be completed?
What is the policy of lounge access in between flights when switching from international to domestic as well as classes? Will I even be allowed access? Also, my understanding is that the lounge is currently under renovations. Is there an ETA as to when this will be completed?
Oct 31, 2014, 10:05 pm
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Lounge is ok.
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/lounge/topics/2003_06/
Sakura lounge for domestics is ok, unaffected by (intl F lounge) works
Lounge is ok.
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/lounge/topics/2003_06/
Sakura lounge for domestics is ok, unaffected by (intl F lounge) works
Oct 31, 2014, 11:14 pm
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The refurbishment of the international lounges at Haneda is completed. The last one to open was the F which opened beginning of September.
You will not have access to the international lounges upon arrival, as you will be sent directly to immigration, baggage claim and customs. The domestic departures are in another terminal and the lounges are (a lot?) more basic than the international versions.
You will not have access to the international lounges upon arrival, as you will be sent directly to immigration, baggage claim and customs. The domestic departures are in another terminal and the lounges are (a lot?) more basic than the international versions.
Oct 31, 2014, 11:39 pm
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Is there any reason for you to be in kix instead of itm? You could probably ask to go on those hourly shuttle flights to itm instead and move on from there to save time.
Is there any reason for you to be in kix instead of itm? You could probably ask to go on those hourly shuttle flights to itm instead and move on from there to save time.
Nov 10, 2014, 3:34 pm
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Thank you for the information. We only have a two hour layover so we won't be utilizing the domestic lounge that much if we even have time.
I was looking at KIX instead of ITM as it appears I can catch a express train quite easily that will take me into Kyoto.
I was looking at KIX instead of ITM as it appears I can catch a express train quite easily that will take me into Kyoto.
Nov 10, 2014, 4:50 pm
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http://www.okkbus.co.jp/en/timetable/itm/t_kyt.html
Limo bus to kyoto from itm every 20 mins fora 1-hr ride.
Not a bad option if you can change to itm when you get to the domestic terminal. Ud save money and time
http://www.okkbus.co.jp/en/timetable/itm/t_kyt.html
Limo bus to kyoto from itm every 20 mins fora 1-hr ride.
Not a bad option if you can change to itm when you get to the domestic terminal. Ud save money and time
Nov 10, 2014, 4:53 pm
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From HND, there are also many more departures (hourly) to ITM than to KIX should you decide to pop into Tokyo for a little while.
Nov 11, 2014, 4:23 am
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The Oneworld rules only allow the higher level of lounge when connecting between long-haul and short-haul. The cut off is 5 hours. HND to Singapore is longer, so your lounge access will be based on the class of Singapore flight, the business class lounge.
Nov 15, 2014, 2:09 pm
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um... SFO-HND is about 10 hours. HND-SIN is 6 hours 20.
Nov 15, 2014, 7:06 pm
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I might be wrong, but I believe what CHP-Flyer meant was.
HND-SIN is longer then 5 hours, therefore, it is a long-haul to long-haul flight. Connecting between long-haul and short-haul lounge access rule doesn't apply.
HND-SIN is longer then 5 hours, therefore, it is a long-haul to long-haul flight. Connecting between long-haul and short-haul lounge access rule doesn't apply.
Nov 15, 2014, 7:56 pm
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Nov 16, 2014, 3:07 am
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Sometime you need to get a senior agent to get what you want. (e.g. you can ask CX HK Lounge to issue you a pass, so that you can leave departure area and re-join immigration queue to enter HK, junior agents never seem to know about this.)
So, I'm not surprised that some lounge agents doesn't know ow connection rules doesn't apply to HND-SIN．
Nov 16, 2014, 3:44 am
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http://www.okkbus.co.jp/en/timetable/itm/t_kyt.html
Limo bus to kyoto from itm every 20 mins fora 1-hr ride.
Not a bad option if you can change to itm when you get to the domestic terminal. Ud save money and time
http://www.okkbus.co.jp/en/timetable/itm/t_kyt.html
Limo bus to kyoto from itm every 20 mins fora 1-hr ride.
Not a bad option if you can change to itm when you get to the domestic terminal. Ud save money and time
He could purchase the following ICOCA-Haruka set
https://www.westjr.co.jp/global/en/t.../icoca-haruka/
Take away the spendable e-money.
￥4060-(￥2000-￥500)=￥2560 round-trip (￥1280 per trip)
￥3030-(￥2000-￥500)=￥1530 one-way
Takes a little bit longer 55min (limo bus) vs 75min(Train).
But if you are a resident, it would cost ￥2580 (single ticket) on the Haruka Express train (Ouch!)
Nov 16, 2014, 9:05 am
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Exactly, long haul to long haul connection. And as per the rules then access based on the booked class on each flight.
One can always ask politely, sometimes you succeed sometimes you do not. However in Japan there is a tendency that all staff knows the rules very well, and do not deviate from them.
One can always ask politely, sometimes you succeed sometimes you do not. However in Japan there is a tendency that all staff knows the rules very well, and do not deviate from them.