JAL - Hot Cabin
Aug 20, 2013, 1:32 am
#61
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Not so fast to close the case.
Did they correct the offending condition without further complaints?
Reduce the temperature, and/or increase the cabin pressure ?
On one occasion after take off, I experience severe shortness of breath to the point of gasping for air and heavy pressure on the chest.
Asked the FA to notify the Captain of the problem and within a short time was relieved.
Did they correct the offending condition without further complaints?
Reduce the temperature, and/or increase the cabin pressure ?
On one occasion after take off, I experience severe shortness of breath to the point of gasping for air and heavy pressure on the chest.
Asked the FA to notify the Captain of the problem and within a short time was relieved.
Aug 20, 2013, 7:45 am
#62
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From a western`s perspective JAL cabin temperature is hot as an oven. From Japanese preservative it`s freezing cold hence every man and his dog asks for a blanket when traveling with them. It`s a Japanese airline so us westerners just have to live with the heat or ask them to turn it down.
Case closed.
Case closed.
Aug 20, 2013, 8:22 am
#63
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Aug 21, 2013, 11:34 pm
#65
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In the First Cabin!
The Thermostat might be in the First Galley area, but the FA may not be authorized to change the temperature, or care to even be bothered to!
In addition, there maybe other associated factors/variables involved like cabin pressure, that are better controlled by the Captain and Co-Captains up front, who are better experienced in these health matters l
Asking Flight attendants to tell the Captain carries more importance to the request and emphasizes the serious of the conditions in the plane.
For example, one FA did nothing to improve conditions and after my second request said she knew NOTHING about those things with a sharp voice.
When I spoke to a mature FA, she replied she understood the problem and she would take care of it immediately, which she did. ^
In addition, there maybe other associated factors/variables involved like cabin pressure, that are better controlled by the Captain and Co-Captains up front, who are better experienced in these health matters l
Asking Flight attendants to tell the Captain carries more importance to the request and emphasizes the serious of the conditions in the plane.
For example, one FA did nothing to improve conditions and after my second request said she knew NOTHING about those things with a sharp voice.
When I spoke to a mature FA, she replied she understood the problem and she would take care of it immediately, which she did. ^
Sep 26, 2013, 9:17 pm
#67
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The cabin was so hot that I barely had any sleep (night flight) once again.
They improved the catering since my last flight on the route but I cannot cope with the heat, especially on an overnight flight, so I will have no choice but to switch airlines just so that I can have a semi-comfortable flight.
A hot cabin is much worse than a cold one. With a cold one, an extra blanket will solve the problem. Hot cabin has no solution I can take myself. It's tolerable on a short flight but not for a long haul overnight.
I'm rather disappointed to take this decision because the flight is nice overall (food, service etc, although the service is sometimes a bit scatter-brained), except for the temperature.
They improved the catering since my last flight on the route but I cannot cope with the heat, especially on an overnight flight, so I will have no choice but to switch airlines just so that I can have a semi-comfortable flight.
A hot cabin is much worse than a cold one. With a cold one, an extra blanket will solve the problem. Hot cabin has no solution I can take myself. It's tolerable on a short flight but not for a long haul overnight.
I'm rather disappointed to take this decision because the flight is nice overall (food, service etc, although the service is sometimes a bit scatter-brained), except for the temperature.
Sep 27, 2013, 2:19 am
#69
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I would definitely write an email / letter to JAL customer service. Japanese companies do take feedback seriously, especially in aggregate -- and I'm sure that there are many others who feel as you do.
Sep 27, 2013, 4:28 am
#70
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Most non-Japanese-looking passengers were in short sleeves with no blanket but they were in the minority.
It's not really nice to make many other people uncomfortable to make me comfortable. I suppose I could have stood around the door in the galley to cool down.
Sep 27, 2013, 8:16 am
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The cabin was so hot that I barely had any sleep (night flight) once again.
They improved the catering since my last flight on the route but I cannot cope with the heat, especially on an overnight flight, so I will have no choice but to switch airlines just so that I can have a semi-comfortable flight.
A hot cabin is much worse than a cold one. With a cold one, an extra blanket will solve the problem. Hot cabin has no solution I can take myself. It's tolerable on a short flight but not for a long haul overnight.
I'm rather disappointed to take this decision because the flight is nice overall (food, service etc, although the service is sometimes a bit scatter-brained), except for the temperature.
They improved the catering since my last flight on the route but I cannot cope with the heat, especially on an overnight flight, so I will have no choice but to switch airlines just so that I can have a semi-comfortable flight.
A hot cabin is much worse than a cold one. With a cold one, an extra blanket will solve the problem. Hot cabin has no solution I can take myself. It's tolerable on a short flight but not for a long haul overnight.
I'm rather disappointed to take this decision because the flight is nice overall (food, service etc, although the service is sometimes a bit scatter-brained), except for the temperature.
Sep 27, 2013, 7:25 pm
#72
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What is the accurate tempurature reading?
Of course, it is the Temperature!
The humidity can't be changed in flight!
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The Temperature can be regulated if there are accurate readings.
Notice how subjective the reports of hot and cold it is in the cabin with OUT accurate temperature numbers.
The whole matter of comfort and healthy conditions are well known in Aeronautical Medicine! The JAL should be heeding that knowledge!
Why is it such a mystery here?
The humidity can't be changed in flight!
.
The Temperature can be regulated if there are accurate readings.
Notice how subjective the reports of hot and cold it is in the cabin with OUT accurate temperature numbers.
The whole matter of comfort and healthy conditions are well known in Aeronautical Medicine! The JAL should be heeding that knowledge!
Why is it such a mystery here?
Sep 27, 2013, 7:30 pm
#73
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Last edited by JALPak; Sep 27, 2013 at 7:35 pm
Sep 28, 2013, 3:46 am
#74
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It might take more then a PhD in Chemistry to understand CARDIO-PULMONARY PHYSIOLOGY and PATHOLOGY for a deeper Medical understanding the problem of COLDNESS here!.
Assuming every one on the plane has a healthy Cardio-Pulmonary system and a Pituitary-Thyroid- Adrenal functioning metabolic axis, and that 82 degrees is THE normal for the majority of passengers you point out being more normal then the minority, who complain of the uncomfortable higher temperatures.
I think the research done for the 787 has already answered the questions of temperature, humidity & pressure being so ignored on this string.
Perhaps they wasted a lot of money to construct a more comfortable healthy atmosphere in planes, that few here would appreciate as an improvement.
Too bad!
Assuming every one on the plane has a healthy Cardio-Pulmonary system and a Pituitary-Thyroid- Adrenal functioning metabolic axis, and that 82 degrees is THE normal for the majority of passengers you point out being more normal then the minority, who complain of the uncomfortable higher temperatures.
I think the research done for the 787 has already answered the questions of temperature, humidity & pressure being so ignored on this string.
Perhaps they wasted a lot of money to construct a more comfortable healthy atmosphere in planes, that few here would appreciate as an improvement.
Too bad!
Last edited by R&R; Sep 28, 2013 at 3:55 am
Sep 28, 2013, 4:31 am
#75
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It might take more then a PhD in Chemistry to understand CARDIO-PULMONARY PHYSIOLOGY and PATHOLOGY for a deeper Medical understanding the problem of COLDNESS here!.
Assuming every one on the plane has a healthy Cardio-Pulmonary system and a Pituitary-Thyroid- Adrenal functioning metabolic axis, and that 82 degrees is THE normal for the majority of passengers you point out being more normal then the minority, who complain of the uncomfortable higher temperatures.
I think the research done for the 787 has already answered the questions of temperature, humidity & pressure being so ignored on this string.
Perhaps they wasted a lot of money to construct a more comfortable healthy atmosphere in planes, that few here would appreciate as an improvement.
Too bad!
Assuming every one on the plane has a healthy Cardio-Pulmonary system and a Pituitary-Thyroid- Adrenal functioning metabolic axis, and that 82 degrees is THE normal for the majority of passengers you point out being more normal then the minority, who complain of the uncomfortable higher temperatures.
I think the research done for the 787 has already answered the questions of temperature, humidity & pressure being so ignored on this string.
Perhaps they wasted a lot of money to construct a more comfortable healthy atmosphere in planes, that few here would appreciate as an improvement.
Too bad!
If foreign passengers' profit/revenue becomes the majority, then maybe things will change.