Unbelievable Walk by Candlewood Suites FLL
#16
Join Date: Jan 2007
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I've had a pre-auth bump before and the hotel contacted me to advise they couldn't do it. I'm glad they did as my card had been cloned. I suppose it depends on the property but you would think out of courtesy they would call perhaps I was just lucky.
There is no excuse for the second booking though.
OP have you heard anything else?
There is no excuse for the second booking though.
OP have you heard anything else?
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HTB.
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Not at all, that had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it.
In retrospect, the hotel did NOTHING wrong to cancel his original reservation, as his credit card could not be authorized....even it as for $0. IHG is very clear in saying that your card must still be able to accept preauthorizations.
It was his second reservation where the hotel blatantly screwed up.
In retrospect, the hotel did NOTHING wrong to cancel his original reservation, as his credit card could not be authorized....even it as for $0. IHG is very clear in saying that your card must still be able to accept preauthorizations.
It was his second reservation where the hotel blatantly screwed up.
I guess the hotel is not that overbooked as OP can make another reservation there.
#19
Join Date: Nov 2009
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The hotel my have been using that loophole to get out of the BRG, but it's within their right to do so since the terms of having a working credit card are clearly communicated in the BRG e-mail.
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If OP has a CC that works (I think that's what OP meant), and the hotel couldn't authorize it because it's $0, then it's the hotel's problem.
#22
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Yes the original CC used was declined as a fraud detection from my bank.. I'm sure we all have been there... The hotel then canceled the entire booking without contacting me.. Since I was arriving late, I gave the hotel to let them know, and that's when I learned of the cancelation.. (I'm glad I called them) Mark told me that I was no longer staying there, and he would book me at the HIX. I assumed he was walking me, but he told me that I would have to pay there..
When I got off the phone with him, I promptly checked rates in the area, and low and behold the CW was available! So I booked it, even changed my Visa card (To one that has little security lol)
Results so far.... IHG is sending me a check for what I paid at the HIX.. Which sucks for me as I am never home (Last time was Christmas) Also I'm getting 30,000 points (Which is the cost of this CW) All this was done by IHG customer service. I'm appalled that they had to intervene, also the hotel didn't want to play ball with IHG it seems either..
At the end of the day Oversells happen, I don't think I'm above an oversell as a plat.. In fact I would rather a hotel walk me than a kettle just because I understand the business, and wouldn't give the FD a hard time.. This property handled this in every possible wrong way.. I have spent literally hours of my time to get a resolution which the hotel should have offered in the first place..
I am now in touch with Alex Mendoza who is forwarding my concerns to upper management.. I am following through with this, and I have high hopes that someone has half a brain, and knows how to run a hotel.. Juan, and Mark should not be employed by an IHG property at all. I will report back if anything comes up.. My expectations at the moment are 30,000 points for not following the Best Rate, and at the least another 30-60K for all the inconvenience, and bad service provided.. I doubt it, but lets see..
When I got off the phone with him, I promptly checked rates in the area, and low and behold the CW was available! So I booked it, even changed my Visa card (To one that has little security lol)
Results so far.... IHG is sending me a check for what I paid at the HIX.. Which sucks for me as I am never home (Last time was Christmas) Also I'm getting 30,000 points (Which is the cost of this CW) All this was done by IHG customer service. I'm appalled that they had to intervene, also the hotel didn't want to play ball with IHG it seems either..
At the end of the day Oversells happen, I don't think I'm above an oversell as a plat.. In fact I would rather a hotel walk me than a kettle just because I understand the business, and wouldn't give the FD a hard time.. This property handled this in every possible wrong way.. I have spent literally hours of my time to get a resolution which the hotel should have offered in the first place..
I am now in touch with Alex Mendoza who is forwarding my concerns to upper management.. I am following through with this, and I have high hopes that someone has half a brain, and knows how to run a hotel.. Juan, and Mark should not be employed by an IHG property at all. I will report back if anything comes up.. My expectations at the moment are 30,000 points for not following the Best Rate, and at the least another 30-60K for all the inconvenience, and bad service provided.. I doubt it, but lets see..
#24
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They are saying that it is a mistake and not their fault.. Lol.. So I guess when some Kettles or other frequent guests book their oversold hotel online they will tell them the same, and send them away paying elsewhere.. Amazing!
#25
Join Date: Nov 2014
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Well whose fault is it if it's not the hotel who manages there own inventory? If the hotel is not accepting blame then that would annoy me so much! I really hope you are successful with getting the hotel to confess!
#27
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Nacho, I would totally agree if the situation was a simple walk.. I have to wait a month or so for my refund, and well countless phone calls emails etc.. Finally the hotel not honoring a BRG claim.. The bad treatment etc.. I hope to stick it to them for a lot more points.. Hotels/employees need to learn from their mistakes..
#28
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Nacho, I would totally agree if the situation was a simple walk.. I have to wait a month or so for my refund, and well countless phone calls emails etc.. Finally the hotel not honoring a BRG claim.. The bad treatment etc.. I hope to stick it to them for a lot more points.. Hotels/employees need to learn from their mistakes..
As such any BAR brg's are usually precharged - and if CC is rejected for any reason the bog is invalidated
For flex rate brg's there should be no need to charge provided CC , but under t&c's I guess they are entitled to try and if CC gets bounced even on checkin day the hotel is I titled to reject ones bpg claim
The reason for CC rejection is irrelevant unless the hotel put through a higher amount
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On any advance rate (brg or not) the hotel us entitled to charge CC almost immediately , but typically during the current/next 9-5 working day
As such any BAR brg's are usually precharged - and if CC is rejected for any reason the bog is invalidated
For flex rate brg's there should be no need to charge provided CC , but under t&c's I guess they are entitled to try and if CC gets bounced even on checkin day the hotel is I titled to reject ones bpg claim
The reason for CC rejection is irrelevant unless the hotel put through a higher amount
As such any BAR brg's are usually precharged - and if CC is rejected for any reason the bog is invalidated
For flex rate brg's there should be no need to charge provided CC , but under t&c's I guess they are entitled to try and if CC gets bounced even on checkin day the hotel is I titled to reject ones bpg claim
The reason for CC rejection is irrelevant unless the hotel put through a higher amount
#30
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Flex Rate day of arrival cancelation policy.. BRG went through days before.. They tried to charge the card before the cancelation..