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Before posting please read POSTS 1-3 for a comprehensive overview of how to select a program.
If you already plan to focus on one particular alliance, please visit the sticky in the relevant forum: Deciding on a oneworld FFP or Which SkyTeam FFP or Choosing a Star FFP
List of frequent flyer programs from Wikipedia
Questionnaire: Copy and paste into your post
Provide the requested information.
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access, etc.
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2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
less than 25000 miles, 50000+ miles and 20-25 flights, etc.
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3. What fare class do you usually buy?
first, business, premium economy, economy
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4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
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5. Which routes do you fly most often?
transatlantic, domestic USA, intra-Asia, etc.
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6. What is your home airport?
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7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in each FFP, if any?
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8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
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If you already plan to focus on one particular alliance, please visit the sticky in the relevant forum: Deciding on a oneworld FFP or Which SkyTeam FFP or Choosing a Star FFP
List of frequent flyer programs from Wikipedia
Questionnaire: Copy and paste into your post
Provide the requested information.
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access, etc.
>>> Reply:
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
less than 25000 miles, 50000+ miles and 20-25 flights, etc.
>>> Reply:
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
first, business, premium economy, economy
>>> Reply:
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
>>> Reply:
5. Which routes do you fly most often?
transatlantic, domestic USA, intra-Asia, etc.
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6. What is your home airport?
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7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in each FFP, if any?
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8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
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#271
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 22
Emirates air miles
Hi all,
Have two upcoming flights with Emirates, I've never used it before and I don't think I will fly with them more often in the future. I live in the US NYC area, and so miles applicable to to the US/EU/Asia will be more useful for me. For this reason I am trying to figure out whether I should collect the miles towards Emirates itself, or either to Alaska Air or JetBlue since they are US-based. Any recommendations?
THANK YOU!
Have two upcoming flights with Emirates, I've never used it before and I don't think I will fly with them more often in the future. I live in the US NYC area, and so miles applicable to to the US/EU/Asia will be more useful for me. For this reason I am trying to figure out whether I should collect the miles towards Emirates itself, or either to Alaska Air or JetBlue since they are US-based. Any recommendations?
THANK YOU!
#273
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: A3
Posts: 20
So after I have been away from this Forum a while, and less flying because of ... things .. I am back. Still not flying as much as I want to but still want a good FFP
Here the Wikipost Questions with my Answers:
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
"Easy" obtainable Status would be sweet, more baggage for carry on would help on my shorter flights, faster Boarding
Oh, less restriction on booking classes is, after the last few flights not being acrueable to A3, very important
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
It varies greatly sadly. This year I am just below 20 000 miles, with a lot of them not acrueable
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
Economy.
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
I think I am not limited in chosing Airlines. ATM I only fly for leisure.
5. Which routes do you fly most often
Within Europe
6. What is your home airport?
VIE
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
A3 (miles and Bonus) blue (which seems to be silver in other *A)
Miles 10403 (missing 9597 for Gold and I probably wont make that till last of November )
Miles and More, no Status 1752 Award miles, 125 Status miles
topbonus (air Berlin) 2900 Award miles
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
For Long Haul I only know SQ and I love it.
Short distance I know more. I prefer LH and LX over OS. But apart from that I have no prefferences
Here the Wikipost Questions with my Answers:
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
"Easy" obtainable Status would be sweet, more baggage for carry on would help on my shorter flights, faster Boarding
Oh, less restriction on booking classes is, after the last few flights not being acrueable to A3, very important
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
It varies greatly sadly. This year I am just below 20 000 miles, with a lot of them not acrueable
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
Economy.
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
I think I am not limited in chosing Airlines. ATM I only fly for leisure.
5. Which routes do you fly most often
Within Europe
6. What is your home airport?
VIE
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
A3 (miles and Bonus) blue (which seems to be silver in other *A)
Miles 10403 (missing 9597 for Gold and I probably wont make that till last of November )
Miles and More, no Status 1752 Award miles, 125 Status miles
topbonus (air Berlin) 2900 Award miles
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
For Long Haul I only know SQ and I love it.
Short distance I know more. I prefer LH and LX over OS. But apart from that I have no prefferences
#274
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS
Posts: 15,027
Hi all,
Have two upcoming flights with Emirates, I've never used it before and I don't think I will fly with them more often in the future. I live in the US NYC area, and so miles applicable to to the US/EU/Asia will be more useful for me. For this reason I am trying to figure out whether I should collect the miles towards Emirates itself, or either to Alaska Air or JetBlue since they are US-based. Any recommendations?
THANK YOU!
Have two upcoming flights with Emirates, I've never used it before and I don't think I will fly with them more often in the future. I live in the US NYC area, and so miles applicable to to the US/EU/Asia will be more useful for me. For this reason I am trying to figure out whether I should collect the miles towards Emirates itself, or either to Alaska Air or JetBlue since they are US-based. Any recommendations?
THANK YOU!
http://thepointsguy.com/2014/04/doub...ough-november/
#275
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS
Posts: 15,027
#276
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS
Posts: 15,027
Don't know about American and their TPAC routes.
Have you considered an Asian program? Asiana or Korean perhaps?
#278
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: HKG
Programs: AA EXP, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat, National Ex Elite
Posts: 43
Hi all,
I'm really trying to figure out with all of the changes for 2015 if I want to stay with United, or move to another program. I've typically been thinking about either AA or AS. Majority of my flying is domestically in the US, but I do 2-3 trips to Asia each year as well. Any feedback is appreciated.
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
Reward availability, upgrades, lounge access domestically, mileage bonus
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
Typically 70 - 100k miles depending on the year.
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
INTL - Business
Domestic - Economy
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Can choose airline, don't get to choose class its always business internationally and economy domestically. Travel for work (70%) and pleasure (30%).
5. Which routes do you fly most often
LAX - DTW
LAX - GSO
LAX - ORD
LAX - HKG
6. What is your home airport?
LAX
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
UA Platinum (250k miles)
AA (20k miles)
AS (30k miles)
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Long Haul - CX & SQ
Domestic - Have only flown UA/CO for the past 5+ years
I'm really trying to figure out with all of the changes for 2015 if I want to stay with United, or move to another program. I've typically been thinking about either AA or AS. Majority of my flying is domestically in the US, but I do 2-3 trips to Asia each year as well. Any feedback is appreciated.
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
Reward availability, upgrades, lounge access domestically, mileage bonus
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
Typically 70 - 100k miles depending on the year.
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
INTL - Business
Domestic - Economy
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Can choose airline, don't get to choose class its always business internationally and economy domestically. Travel for work (70%) and pleasure (30%).
5. Which routes do you fly most often
LAX - DTW
LAX - GSO
LAX - ORD
LAX - HKG
6. What is your home airport?
LAX
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
UA Platinum (250k miles)
AA (20k miles)
AS (30k miles)
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Long Haul - CX & SQ
Domestic - Have only flown UA/CO for the past 5+ years
#279
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS
Posts: 15,027
Hi all,
I'm really trying to figure out with all of the changes for 2015 if I want to stay with United, or move to another program. I've typically been thinking about either AA or AS. Majority of my flying is domestically in the US, but I do 2-3 trips to Asia each year as well. Any feedback is appreciated.
I'm really trying to figure out with all of the changes for 2015 if I want to stay with United, or move to another program. I've typically been thinking about either AA or AS. Majority of my flying is domestically in the US, but I do 2-3 trips to Asia each year as well. Any feedback is appreciated.
#280
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 9
Hello,
I am trying to figure out what would be best for me for 2015. I am based in LAX
Questions
For members asking for information, to help people to assist you, can you please provide:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
(upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: upgrades on travel, priority services when flying, extra baggage. those are the ones i care the most. I do carry the citi AA executive card that gives me access to the AA lounge.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Reply:
I fly about 3-4 trips East Asia, another 1-2 to Europe, and about 2-3 to east coast every year.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Reply:
cheapest
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply:Yeah, I can choose anything i want since i am paying them myself ..
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply:Transpacific
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: LAX
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in an airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
(AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: Not currently, i have been ignoring airline FFP so far somehow... I do have platinum with SPG and diamond with hyatt tho
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: nothing particular
I am trying to figure out what would be best for me for 2015. I am based in LAX
Questions
For members asking for information, to help people to assist you, can you please provide:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
(upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: upgrades on travel, priority services when flying, extra baggage. those are the ones i care the most. I do carry the citi AA executive card that gives me access to the AA lounge.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Reply:
I fly about 3-4 trips East Asia, another 1-2 to Europe, and about 2-3 to east coast every year.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Reply:
cheapest
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply:Yeah, I can choose anything i want since i am paying them myself ..
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply:Transpacific
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: LAX
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in an airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
(AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: Not currently, i have been ignoring airline FFP so far somehow... I do have platinum with SPG and diamond with hyatt tho
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: nothing particular
#281
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: United Platinum, AA Gold, Delta Silver
Posts: 3
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
Reply: Upgrades and lounge access
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
(e.g., <25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles and <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply: >100,000 and >50
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
(e.g., first, business, premium economy, economy)
Reply: Economy
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for work, but am able to book my own travel
5. Which routes do you fly most often
(e.g., U.S. domestic, transatlantic, intra-Asia)
Reply: Transatlantic, intra-Asia
6. What is your home airport?
(e.g., SFO, LHR, HKG)
Reply: NYC
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
(e.g., AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro)
Reply: AA Gold, UA Platinum, Delta Silver medallion
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply: Non. Overall, I'm interested in airlines that are investing in good technology, have wifi on all flights, good apps, well-designed sites
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
Reply: Upgrades and lounge access
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
(e.g., <25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles and <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply: >100,000 and >50
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
(e.g., first, business, premium economy, economy)
Reply: Economy
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for work, but am able to book my own travel
5. Which routes do you fly most often
(e.g., U.S. domestic, transatlantic, intra-Asia)
Reply: Transatlantic, intra-Asia
6. What is your home airport?
(e.g., SFO, LHR, HKG)
Reply: NYC
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
(e.g., AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro)
Reply: AA Gold, UA Platinum, Delta Silver medallion
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply: Non. Overall, I'm interested in airlines that are investing in good technology, have wifi on all flights, good apps, well-designed sites
#282
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: DTW
Posts: 322
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
Reply: Miles that don't expire or at least renewable with activity and cheap reward flights. If they have a credit card partner that helps with this, I'm also open to that option. Status isn't important.
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
(e.g., <25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles and <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply: <25000
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
(e.g., first, business, premium economy, economy)
Reply:Economy, usually discount.
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply:I travel pleasure and I can choose any airline.
5. Which routes do you fly most often
(e.g., U.S. domestic, transatlantic, intra-Asia)
Reply: US domestic, Canada. Every year or two, I also make a trip to HK/SE Asia.
6. What is your home airport?
(e.g., SFO, LHR, HKG)
Reply:ORD
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
(e.g., AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro)
Reply:N/A
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply: Skyteam. I've got about 25000 with DL right now but I'm considering jumping to another airline. AM maybe?
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
Reply: Miles that don't expire or at least renewable with activity and cheap reward flights. If they have a credit card partner that helps with this, I'm also open to that option. Status isn't important.
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
(e.g., <25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles and <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply: <25000
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
(e.g., first, business, premium economy, economy)
Reply:Economy, usually discount.
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply:I travel pleasure and I can choose any airline.
5. Which routes do you fly most often
(e.g., U.S. domestic, transatlantic, intra-Asia)
Reply: US domestic, Canada. Every year or two, I also make a trip to HK/SE Asia.
6. What is your home airport?
(e.g., SFO, LHR, HKG)
Reply:ORD
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
(e.g., AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro)
Reply:N/A
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply: Skyteam. I've got about 25000 with DL right now but I'm considering jumping to another airline. AM maybe?
#283
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: AC E 50K
Posts: 4
1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
(upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply:Ungrades and priority service
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
(<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply:>40,000 miles > 50 segments
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Reply:Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? YES
Reply:
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: USA and Canada
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply:YYZ
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in an airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
(AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: Elite 50K with Air Canada
(8) Preferred Airlines ANY
Can someone suggest the best FF program for me?
(upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply:Ungrades and priority service
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
(<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply:>40,000 miles > 50 segments
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Reply:Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure? YES
Reply:
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: USA and Canada
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply:YYZ
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in an airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
(AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: Elite 50K with Air Canada
(8) Preferred Airlines ANY
Can someone suggest the best FF program for me?
#284
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 20,990
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
Reply: Miles that don't expire or at least renewable with activity and cheap reward flights. If they have a credit card partner that helps with this, I'm also open to that option. Status isn't important.
< snip >
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply: Skyteam. I've got about 25000 with DL right now but I'm considering jumping to another airline. AM maybe?
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
Reply: Miles that don't expire or at least renewable with activity and cheap reward flights. If they have a credit card partner that helps with this, I'm also open to that option. Status isn't important.
< snip >
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply: Skyteam. I've got about 25000 with DL right now but I'm considering jumping to another airline. AM maybe?
Easy to get miles from non flying activites to keep the account alive
AS has a wide range of partners airlines http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...-overview.aspx
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...help-here.html
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Nov 3, 2014 at 9:32 pm
#285
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 3
1. What is most important to you in a frequent flyer program (FFP)?
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
In order: upgrades, award access / rates, priority service, lounge access, baggage service
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
(e.g., <25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles and <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply:
Less than 25 for sure, probably around 5-10 round trip (including some shorter ones for work i.e. NYC - Boston)
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
(e.g., first, business, premium economy, economy)
Reply:
Generally economy - will upgrade to premium economy if available for longer flights
Business for longer flights booked by the company (1-2 times a year)
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply:
5. Which routes do you fly most often
(e.g., U.S. domestic, transatlantic, intra-Asia)
Reply:
U.S. Domestic; 1-2 international a year, generally to Europe
6. What is your home airport?
(e.g., SFO, LHR, HKG)
Reply:
I live in NYC, so LGA / JFK / Newark
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
(e.g., AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro)
Reply:
No status anywhere but I have some miles with UA, AA, VA, JetBlue. Should not be a consideration.
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply:
I really enjoyed my flights on JetBlue or Virgin but am open.
I am also open to getting a credit card if it makes sense. I have an american express PRG card that I use to book generally.
(e.g., upgrades, priority services, baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, lounge access)
In order: upgrades, award access / rates, priority service, lounge access, baggage service
2. How many miles do you usually fly each year? How many flights/sectors?
(e.g., <25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles and <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply:
Less than 25 for sure, probably around 5-10 round trip (including some shorter ones for work i.e. NYC - Boston)
3. What fare class do you usually buy?
(e.g., first, business, premium economy, economy)
Reply:
Generally economy - will upgrade to premium economy if available for longer flights
Business for longer flights booked by the company (1-2 times a year)
4. Are you able to choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply:
5. Which routes do you fly most often
(e.g., U.S. domestic, transatlantic, intra-Asia)
Reply:
U.S. Domestic; 1-2 international a year, generally to Europe
6. What is your home airport?
(e.g., SFO, LHR, HKG)
Reply:
I live in NYC, so LGA / JFK / Newark
7. Do you have status in any FFP? What is it? How miles do you have banked in a FFP, if any?
(e.g., AA Executive Platinum, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro)
Reply:
No status anywhere but I have some miles with UA, AA, VA, JetBlue. Should not be a consideration.
8. What are your preferred airlines, if any?
Reply:
I really enjoyed my flights on JetBlue or Virgin but am open.
I am also open to getting a credit card if it makes sense. I have an american express PRG card that I use to book generally.