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Old Jun 14, 09, 12:18 am   #31
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Both of my parents are from India who moved to the United States and are now US citizens and do not hold an OCI. I was born in the US, but never had an Indian passport. Do I qualify for the OCI?
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Old Jun 14, 09, 2:05 am   #32
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Don't need anything else - I'm all set with the PIO...
How long does the process of obtaining PIO take? What documents do you have to furnish?
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Old Jun 14, 09, 2:48 am   #33
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How long does the process of obtaining PIO take?
Too long - at least in India! (Adding: 60+ days, with massive follow-up!)

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http://www.immigrationindia.nic.in/pio_card.htm

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Old Jun 14, 09, 5:30 am   #34
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How long does the process of obtaining PIO take?
Took me 4 days at the Embassy in Singapore.
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Old Jun 14, 09, 6:44 am   #35
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How long does the process of obtaining PIO take? What documents do you have to furnish?
1-2 working days, an officers scrutinizes your evidence and the card can be issued. In my case the issue took 7 days because they waited for the check to clear.
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Old Jun 18, 09, 5:28 pm   #36
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OCI is valid indefinitely with no registration, PIO needs renewal and registration with FRRO when in India >180days. Both give you NRI status and no hassles entry/exit into India. PIO is available to spouses and kids of Indians who are otherwise not elegible for OCI.

What would be interesting to know is whether a foreign citizen is allowed to keep the PIO after divorce.
I'll try to get back on that matter of PIO status retention in the event of divorce, but my preliminary guess -- and guess is all that it is right now -- is that it can be functionally retained even after divorce or death of spouse.

What would be interesting to know is whether PIO and/or OCI status would still be recognized by the GOI if the passport of the PIO and/or OCI status recipient is pulled by the passport-issuing country used by the PIO/OCI.
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Old Jun 20, 09, 9:59 am   #37
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I'll try to get back on that matter of PIO status retention in the event of divorce, but my preliminary guess -- and guess is all that it is right now -- is that it can be functionally retained even after divorce or death of spouse.

What would be interesting to know is whether PIO and/or OCI status would still be recognized by the GOI if the passport of the PIO and/or OCI status recipient is pulled by the passport-issuing country used by the PIO/OCI.
Interesting question. In my opinion, it shouldn't matter. The basis of OCI/PIO your Indian connection.
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Old Oct 27, 09, 5:04 am   #38
 
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Hi all
Firstly a hello to you all as I am new to this forum. I am in need of some help on a OCI issue.

I was born here in UK, my father born in Africa. However we have the original Empire of India passport belonging to my grandmother (my Fathers's mother). It's issue date is April 1946 and expiry date is April 1951. It states she was born in India. It even has my father's name in the passport as in those days I believe kids could be added as a name child (correct me if i am wrong)

Question to you all, would I be able to apply for OCI on the basis of this?. I have all the other neccessary documents copied duplicate. And of course the 35mm x 35mm pictures. I have done everything apart from the £165 postal order as I want to make sure it will be accepted and not lose out on the fee.

Your help on the is much much appreciated
I have tried emailing the HCI London OCI email address many times and no help. I have tried calling them for some 3-4 days now and again no reply. Line just rings and rings.
I would like to thank you all in advance for your help.
D3VSKI are you there?. I think you can help me on this.
thanks

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Old Oct 28, 09, 9:48 am   #39
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I opted for the PIO, as, in the event of an emergency evac, all that it would take would be for the marine to sight the Overseas Citizen of India document and deny you the coveted space on the mode of transport...

Wilder scenarios have occurred, so don't want to tempt fate...
Emergency evac from India? I think, your fears are more than a bit far fetched.
What kind of emergency evacuation are you planing for? Freeze in Bombay?
A scenario that would require a country to evacuate all its citizens from a large country like India is too scary to contemplate. India is not Vietnam and this is not 1975.
In case of social unrest or riots in India, you will, most likely, be better off in India, unless you happen to be the group that's being targeted, like the Sikhs were in Delhi after Mrs. Gandhi's assassination. That wasn't considered serious enough to call the marines into action. There were no evacuation by marines following Nov 26th either.
Of course, anything can happen anywhere. There can be a freeze in Bombay at 50 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Old Oct 28, 09, 10:09 am   #40
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Emergency evac from India? I think, your fears are more than a bit far fetched.
What kind of emergency evacuation are you planing for? Freeze in Bombay?
A scenario that would require a country to evacuate all its citizens from a large country like India is too scary to contemplate. India is not Vietnam and this is not 1975.
In case of social unrest or riots in India, you will, most likely, be better off in India, unless you happen to be the group that's being targeted, like the Sikhs were in Delhi after Mrs. Gandhi's assassination. That wasn't considered serious enough to call the marines into action. There were no evacuation by marines following Nov 26th either.
Of course, anything can happen anywhere. There can be a freeze in Bombay at 50 degrees Fahrenheit.
Dude, a European (non-diplomat, but corporate) who was staying nearby the area of 26/11 was evacuated from BOM with a bulletproof car and with full armed escort to the airport - so, I think if it came to a prolonged assault where US citizens were at risk, there might be some evac of important personnel/citizens.

However, it might be difficult these days (as you have stated) as the US doesn't really have the capability at present in the Indian Ocean...

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Dude, a European (non-diplomat, but corporate) who was staying nearby the area of 26/11 was evacuated from BOM with a bulletproof car and with full armed escort to the airport - so, I think if it came to a prolonged assault where US citizens were at risk, there might be some evac of important personnel/citizens.

However, it might be difficult these days (as you have stated) as the US doesn't really have the capability at present in the Indian Ocean...
Diego Garcia has some quite capable units often there, but the Indian government is highly unlikely to allow for even such foreign military units to operate in this regard inside India on any basis not tied closely to a diplomatic protection function. Even as it relates to diplomat protection functions, it's going to be quite restricted unless other changes were to come about.
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Diego Garcia has some quite capable units often there, but the Indian government is highly unlikely to allow for even such foreign military units to operate in this regard inside India on any basis not tied closely to a diplomatic protection function. Even as it relates to diplomat protection functions, it's going to be quite restricted unless other changes were to come about.
Still, if India can't handle an evac, I'm sure they'll allow docking/other types of conveyance provided...not necessarily *within* India.
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Still, if India can't handle an evac, I'm sure they'll allow docking/other types of conveyance provided...not necessarily *within* India.
Evacuating foreign personnel remains a responsibility of their respective Governments. As to whether India can or cannot handle evacuation of its own citizens depends on the circumstances and the level of hostilities on the ground. One of the largest, if not the largest, civiillian evacuations was carried out by Air India for the GoI prior to the 199i Gulf War.
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Evacuating foreign personnel remains a responsibility of their respective Governments. As to whether India can or cannot handle evacuation of its own citizens depends on the circumstances and the level of hostilities on the ground. One of the largest, if not the largest, civiillian evacuations was carried out by Air India for the GoI prior to the 199i Gulf War.
I was/am concerned with US for US citizens only.
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Dude, a European (non-diplomat, but corporate) who was staying nearby the area of 26/11 was evacuated from BOM with a bulletproof car and with full armed escort to the airport - so, I think if it came to a prolonged assault where US citizens were at risk, there might be some evac of important personnel/citizens.

However, it might be difficult these days (as you have stated) as the US doesn't really have the capability at present in the Indian Ocean...
Evacuating an corporate individual or a a few corporate individuals is quite different from general evacuation of all U.S. citizens, which is the premise of your earlier post.
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