WARNING: Issues about Hotel Taxes in India
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I just checked the Hyatt in Del and it shows insane amount of taxes and service charges on awards. I have never paid extra for awards before anywhere. Is this only in India? What a scam this is!
I have about a seven days stay in Del.
How do I avoid paying these rip off extras? Which chains doesn't charge these?
Thank you
I have about a seven days stay in Del.
How do I avoid paying these rip off extras? Which chains doesn't charge these?
Thank you
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I was gonna book a 6 days award reservation but the extras makes me unhappy.
Is it true that the extras are charged at Hotels in Central New delhi only?
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all hotels in delhi, chain or otherwise....has nothing to do with central delhi....
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Hyatt Regency Delhi
Bhikaiji Cama Place, Ring Road
New Delhi, 110066, India
Quoted rate is subject to "15% Luxury Tax, 8.65% Service Tax and 3% Service Charge". Luxury Tax amount will apply on published rate of room or suite type guest resides in during the stay, which may vary from the rate guest is booked on. Luxury tax is applicable on all room nights irrespective of the rate value. The hotel can only provide an estimate of taxes at the time of reservation. Taxes are subject to change without prior notice.
Hyatt Regency Delhi would like to request that all guests carry a valid form of photographic identification, such as a passport or driver's license and a company ID. Guest will be required to produce this upon arrival. Please look for Hyatt placard at meeting point. An amount equal to stay bill will be charged at check-in/during stay to facilitate speedy check-out
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the luxury tax has recently been increased by the government to 15% & since its charged on rack rate, your final tax amount exceeds 40% of your room rate....my most recent stay last week ended up with me paying 42% tax on my room rate....its becoming crazy....
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my understanding is that it is supposed to be included but i believe the government has asked hotels to charge luxury tax on top of this in delhi....
the luxury tax has recently been increased by the government to 15% & since its charged on rack rate, your final tax amount exceeds 40% of your room rate....my most recent stay last week ended up with me paying 42% tax on my room rate....its becoming crazy....
the luxury tax has recently been increased by the government to 15% & since its charged on rack rate, your final tax amount exceeds 40% of your room rate....my most recent stay last week ended up with me paying 42% tax on my room rate....its becoming crazy....
I copied & pasted above.
You paid 42% tax on awards? if the cash rate for standard award night is $200 , I should expect to be charged around $90 a night?
If that's true, I 'd rather book a non chain local hotel with cash. I can get a room for $30 a night including whatever they would have charged if booked with points.
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makes sense....
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The Hyatt Delhi shows other taxes besides the luxury on awards. What about that?
I copied & pasted above.
You paid 42% tax on awards? if the cash rate for standard award night is $200 , I should expect to be charged around $90 a night?
If that's true, I 'd rather book a non chain local hotel with cash. I can get a room for $30 a night including whatever they would have charged if booked with points.
I copied & pasted above.
You paid 42% tax on awards? if the cash rate for standard award night is $200 , I should expect to be charged around $90 a night?
If that's true, I 'd rather book a non chain local hotel with cash. I can get a room for $30 a night including whatever they would have charged if booked with points.
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lets suppose your room rate is $200 & you were upgraded to a suite with a rack rate of $500....you won't pay 42% of $500....instead you would pay 1.25% vat on your original rate ($200), 8.40% service tax on your original rate ($200) & 15% luxury tax on the rack rate ($500)....
that would total $2.50 + $16.80 + $75.00 = $94.30....
that comes to 47.15% total tax on your original $200 rate....
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the calculation is a bit more complicated that that....
lets suppose your room rate is $200 & you were upgraded to a suite with a rack rate of $500....you won't pay 42% of $500....instead you would pay 1.25% vat on your original rate ($200), 8.40% service tax on your original rate ($200) & 15% luxury tax on the rack rate ($500)....
that would total $2.50 + $16.80 + $75.00 = $94.30....
that comes to 47.15% total tax on your original $200 rate....
lets suppose your room rate is $200 & you were upgraded to a suite with a rack rate of $500....you won't pay 42% of $500....instead you would pay 1.25% vat on your original rate ($200), 8.40% service tax on your original rate ($200) & 15% luxury tax on the rack rate ($500)....
that would total $2.50 + $16.80 + $75.00 = $94.30....
that comes to 47.15% total tax on your original $200 rate....
Last edited by GUWonder; Sep 2, 2015 at 3:08 am
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Hotels really should develop a better disclosure practice at the time of booking to make it clear to customers what the total charges to just stay at the property will be. Customers (even at "luxury" properties) don't deserve (and can't all afford) unexpectedly costly financial surprises -- surprises that hotels could avoid if the hotels had the will to do so, as they know the rack rate and applicable taxes for each and every room at the property. Hotels are well capable of assigning rooms based on the room type booked and at least making it explicit what the maximum tax mount will be since they already know the rack rate of each and every room on premises. If hotels did this, it would help customers to avoid nasty financial surprises at check-out.
for this reason alone i refuse any potential upgrade during check-in in delhi....the rack rate taxes are just out of control....
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To be fair, Hyatt Delhi was very clear about this in the booking confirmation:
Greetings from Hyatt Regency Delhi,
Your reservation at Hyatt Regency Delhi has been changed. Details of your reservation are provided below. Create a memorable vacation experience by confirming in-room amenities, activities, and more by using Hyatt E-Concierge.
We look forward to welcoming you on your November 1x, 201x arrival.
Please note, a 12.36% % service tax is applicable on the paid room rate. An additional 10% Luxury Tax is also applicable on the published room rate, which may vary from the paid room rate.
Warmest Regards,
Hyatt Regency Delhi Team
Your reservation at Hyatt Regency Delhi has been changed. Details of your reservation are provided below. Create a memorable vacation experience by confirming in-room amenities, activities, and more by using Hyatt E-Concierge.
We look forward to welcoming you on your November 1x, 201x arrival.
Please note, a 12.36% % service tax is applicable on the paid room rate. An additional 10% Luxury Tax is also applicable on the published room rate, which may vary from the paid room rate.
Warmest Regards,
Hyatt Regency Delhi Team
Room(s) Booked: REGENCY STE KING
Room Description: 1 king bed:Floor 1-5:48 sqm:Airport/Railway Transfers Breakfast/cocktails
Nightly Rate per Room:
November 1x - November 1x 7,800.00 INDIAN RUPEES
Type of Rate: HYATT DAILY RATE
Rate Information: Regularly published room rates.
CANCELLATION POLICY: CXL BY 2PM HTL TIME 48 HRS TO ARRV TO AVOID 1 NIGHT RETENTION
Additional Information: DIAMOND SUITE UPGRADE CONFIRMED
Additional Tax & Service Charges
17.42% tax + 3.00% Service Charge
Room Description: 1 king bed:Floor 1-5:48 sqm:Airport/Railway Transfers Breakfast/cocktails
Nightly Rate per Room:
November 1x - November 1x 7,800.00 INDIAN RUPEES
Type of Rate: HYATT DAILY RATE
Rate Information: Regularly published room rates.
CANCELLATION POLICY: CXL BY 2PM HTL TIME 48 HRS TO ARRV TO AVOID 1 NIGHT RETENTION
Additional Information: DIAMOND SUITE UPGRADE CONFIRMED
Additional Tax & Service Charges
17.42% tax + 3.00% Service Charge
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To be fair, that isn't all that clear when it's clear that the hotel isn't disclosing the "published room rate" at the time of booking. And last I was there, they weren't even disclosing the "published room rate" at time of check-in.
In other words, nothing was very clear about the total charges applicable for just my booked room until I got the folio to check-out.
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Am I paying 26. 65% extra for any award stay at any Chain hotels in Delhi?
If the club room I book with points costs $500 in cash a night, I will be paying $133.25 a night in taxes?
"15% Luxury Tax, 8.65% Service Tax and 3% Service Charge"
If the club room I book with points costs $500 in cash a night, I will be paying $133.25 a night in taxes?
"15% Luxury Tax, 8.65% Service Tax and 3% Service Charge"
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The was so much mistrust between the tax authorities and Delhi hotels that they (the tax lot) introduced a "simple" decree that rooms should be taxed on their agreed rack rate rather than on whatever amount had been negotiated between hotel and guest.
This was mostly swallowed in high-end places where perhaps the majority of guests are on expenses, or otherwise accept invoices without question.
The difficulty, of course, comes with upgrades and reward stays. To avoid hassle I refused upgrades on paid stays, and simply refused to pay any tax on award stays. The latter position created some stand-offs, but I got my way - sometimes with the help of the chains "head office" and the irrefutable logic of "percentages of zero".