Air India Flying Returns - Major changes in FFP Program
Jun 1, 2016, 12:11 am
#181
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: India
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, SkyTeam Elite Plus, Hilton Gold
Posts: 907
ai has completely ruined the best benefits of its ffp....one of their best features used to be the ability to upgrade your ticket using miles....while they have still retained that, the number of miles required to upgrade now makes no sense....
i have a personal trip coming up to atq next month....the tickets were very well priced at inr 1,286 one way....even though its a short less than an hour flight, they are flying the dreamliner on this route so i thought about upgrading my ticket using miles....normally this trip in business would set you back 12k miles but with the current 40% off promotion ai is running, this would have only cost me 7,200 miles....ai on the other hand wanted 10,800 miles for me to upgrade my ticket....who in their right mind would even consider such a ridiculous deal????
i've said it before & i'll say it again, ai has completely butchered one of the best benefits of their ffp....
i have a personal trip coming up to atq next month....the tickets were very well priced at inr 1,286 one way....even though its a short less than an hour flight, they are flying the dreamliner on this route so i thought about upgrading my ticket using miles....normally this trip in business would set you back 12k miles but with the current 40% off promotion ai is running, this would have only cost me 7,200 miles....ai on the other hand wanted 10,800 miles for me to upgrade my ticket....who in their right mind would even consider such a ridiculous deal????
i've said it before & i'll say it again, ai has completely butchered one of the best benefits of their ffp....
Upgrade using miles makes no sense now.
No point going out of my way to hoard FR miles.
Aug 5, 2016, 3:45 am
#184
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: Don't think it matters...
Posts: 5,240
AI Fffp charging more for AI redemptions compared to *A ??
Hello,
Checked the AI website and miles requirement for a Y redemption.
SFO - DEL redemption in Y is priced at 80000 FR miles OW, i.e 160000 FR miles RT if we take AI.
For *A redemptions, any North America location to Any Indian location is priced 110000 FR miles !!
Not to forget for AI , we need to spend additional for positioning flights to SFO and from DEL to final destination !!
So AI seems to be charging more for redemptions on their flights compared to their alliance partners ?
I am aware that AI does not charge YQ now.. I believe there are options within *A partners (UA etc) that don't charge YQ right ?
Checked the AI website and miles requirement for a Y redemption.
SFO - DEL redemption in Y is priced at 80000 FR miles OW, i.e 160000 FR miles RT if we take AI.
For *A redemptions, any North America location to Any Indian location is priced 110000 FR miles !!
Not to forget for AI , we need to spend additional for positioning flights to SFO and from DEL to final destination !!
So AI seems to be charging more for redemptions on their flights compared to their alliance partners ?
I am aware that AI does not charge YQ now.. I believe there are options within *A partners (UA etc) that don't charge YQ right ?
Aug 5, 2016, 8:25 am
#185
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 160
Hello,
Checked the AI website and miles requirement for a Y redemption.
SFO - DEL redemption in Y is priced at 80000 FR miles OW, i.e 160000 FR miles RT if we take AI.
For *A redemptions, any North America location to Any Indian location is priced 110000 FR miles !!
Not to forget for AI , we need to spend additional for positioning flights to SFO and from DEL to final destination !!
So AI seems to be charging more for redemptions on their flights compared to their alliance partners ?
I am aware that AI does not charge YQ now.. I believe there are options within *A partners (UA etc) that don't charge YQ right ?
Checked the AI website and miles requirement for a Y redemption.
SFO - DEL redemption in Y is priced at 80000 FR miles OW, i.e 160000 FR miles RT if we take AI.
For *A redemptions, any North America location to Any Indian location is priced 110000 FR miles !!
Not to forget for AI , we need to spend additional for positioning flights to SFO and from DEL to final destination !!
So AI seems to be charging more for redemptions on their flights compared to their alliance partners ?
I am aware that AI does not charge YQ now.. I believe there are options within *A partners (UA etc) that don't charge YQ right ?
Aug 8, 2016, 2:32 am
#186
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: Don't think it matters...
Posts: 5,240
Aug 25, 2016, 5:06 am
#188
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
Programs: Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Trident Plat, DL Diamond, AI Maharajah
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Aug 25, 2016, 5:09 am
#189
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Goa, India
Programs: Marriott Titanium, IHG Plat Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist, Qatar Gold, Vistara Gold
Posts: 1,286
Aug 30, 2016, 1:22 am
#190
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 336
Does Air India still price connecting flights as multiple awards?
I am trying to book a DFW-FRA-DEL on LH flights and I am being told on the phone that it will be priced as 2 awards. (North America - Europe and Europe to India). I thought they had updated their systems once they had joined Star Alliance. Can anyone confirm how to get it to price as 1 award?
I am trying to book a DFW-FRA-DEL on LH flights and I am being told on the phone that it will be priced as 2 awards. (North America - Europe and Europe to India). I thought they had updated their systems once they had joined Star Alliance. Can anyone confirm how to get it to price as 1 award?
Aug 30, 2016, 2:45 am
#191
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
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Does Air India still price connecting flights as multiple awards?
I am trying to book a DFW-FRA-DEL on LH flights and I am being told on the phone that it will be priced as 2 awards. (North America - Europe and Europe to India). I thought they had updated their systems once they had joined Star Alliance. Can anyone confirm how to get it to price as 1 award?
I am trying to book a DFW-FRA-DEL on LH flights and I am being told on the phone that it will be priced as 2 awards. (North America - Europe and Europe to India). I thought they had updated their systems once they had joined Star Alliance. Can anyone confirm how to get it to price as 1 award?
Aug 30, 2016, 4:01 am
#192
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 336
I've spoken to 3 agents so far today including a supervisor who said that the only way to price it is through 2 awards. He even asked me to email them so they could give this in writing as well. This seemed to be the Delhi call center as he asked me to email the Delhi call center email address. I had called using the 1800 number on the FR website. Any particular call center which may be better suited to making this booking?
Aug 30, 2016, 4:26 am
#193
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Thanks for the quick reply Keyser.
I've spoken to 3 agents so far today including a supervisor who said that the only way to price it is through 2 awards. He even asked me to email them so they could give this in writing as well. This seemed to be the Delhi call center as he asked me to email the Delhi call center email address. I had called using the 1800 number on the FR website. Any particular call center which may be better suited to making this booking?
I've spoken to 3 agents so far today including a supervisor who said that the only way to price it is through 2 awards. He even asked me to email them so they could give this in writing as well. This seemed to be the Delhi call center as he asked me to email the Delhi call center email address. I had called using the 1800 number on the FR website. Any particular call center which may be better suited to making this booking?
Aug 30, 2016, 4:33 am
#194
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 336
Dear _______,
We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you.
In reference to your e-mail ,we understand that you would like to know about the miles required from DFW to DEl.We are sorry to inform you that there is no direct flight only via fight(via ORD) is available ,so miles will calculated separately.From DFW to ORD the flight is UA5570 for that the miles required is 17500 and from ORD to DEl AI126 it is 80000 miles required.So the total miles required for one way will be 97500 plus taxes applicable.You can book the ticket through customer care or directly from booking office.
For any other query you can reach us through our Air India Customer Care Toll Free number India: 1800 180 1407 |USA: 1800 223 7776 |UK: + 44 207 760 3290 | Canada: 1800 625 6424 |Germany – 0049 69 1200 9821(9AM-9PM Local) | France – 0033 1 7654 5741(9AM-9PM Local)| Singapore – 00 65 6225 9411| Australia – 1 800 247 463.
Or log on to our website www.flyingreturns.co.in. Have a wonderful day!
[email protected]
Warm Regards,
Deepthi,
Air India Customer Care/chennai.
We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you.
In reference to your e-mail ,we understand that you would like to know about the miles required from DFW to DEl.We are sorry to inform you that there is no direct flight only via fight(via ORD) is available ,so miles will calculated separately.From DFW to ORD the flight is UA5570 for that the miles required is 17500 and from ORD to DEl AI126 it is 80000 miles required.So the total miles required for one way will be 97500 plus taxes applicable.You can book the ticket through customer care or directly from booking office.
For any other query you can reach us through our Air India Customer Care Toll Free number India: 1800 180 1407 |USA: 1800 223 7776 |UK: + 44 207 760 3290 | Canada: 1800 625 6424 |Germany – 0049 69 1200 9821(9AM-9PM Local) | France – 0033 1 7654 5741(9AM-9PM Local)| Singapore – 00 65 6225 9411| Australia – 1 800 247 463.
Or log on to our website www.flyingreturns.co.in. Have a wonderful day!
[email protected]
Warm Regards,
Deepthi,
Air India Customer Care/chennai.
Aug 30, 2016, 5:04 am
#195
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 336