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Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
I see no reason to bother rating one's dine at all now. If there's no tangible incentive (in the form of bonus miles/points/dollars or something else worthwhile), I'm not wasting my time doing it.
Besides, I don't find the ratings to be so terribly reliable anyhow. I posted in another thread that I think RN/idine "cheats" and doesn't include really negative ratings -- at least based on a place that I gave a very poor rating to. I never (even after months had passed) saw my review appear, and I suspect it wasn't even included in the numerical averages.
BTW, the thread title is misleading -- you can still "rate your dine," you just don't get any bonus for doing so.
I don’t mean to be petty (or at least admit to being petty), but when a restaurant where I had previously got food poisoning came onto Idine I decided to do my bit to get them the lowest rating of any local Idinery. Since I would literally pass by the place, I’d often get a cup of coffee (pretty safe, right?) and then ding them with all ones on their review.
It soon became clear to me that the weight of my ratings was not factoring into their overall score. I suppose that it’s possible that Idine only lets a person rate a restaurant once, but I kind of doubt it.
In regards to my enthusiasm for only 5 miles per dollar, my three dines in January '09 compare to 13 dines in January '08. Mrs. Jailer packed my lunch yesterday, I'm taking my lunch today--Trader Joe's sushi. I have lost five pounds.
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If you read the fine print (I think it's there when you submit your review), it indicates that RN can pick and choose which reviews to post on their site, although it appears that all reviews should, indeed, be going to the restaurant.
Here's the actual disclaimer, just below the comments box on the rating page:
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NOTE: Member Reviews and comments are shared with the restaurateur in a timely manner. Rewards Network reserves the right to select the reviews that are posted to the Web site.
By providing feedback to us based on your experience, you authorize Rewards Network to share this
information in a non-personally identifiable manner (either in aggregate or by including first name,
first initial of last name, city and state of residence) with our participating restaurants, partners and
other program members.
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
I've seen some negative comments in reviews.
Thanks for misreading/misconstruing my post. My words were:
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...I posted in another thread that I think RN/idine "cheats" and doesn't include really negative ratings...
Yes, I've seen "negative comments" -- that's not the same thing as "really negative ratings." The rating is the numerical value (1 through 5) you assign. You may see some "negative comments," but how many actual ratings of 1 or 2 do you see? A "mediocre" rating of a restaurant on idine would be a 3, which is pretty rare. Most are in the range of 4 to 5. Not really useful or even credible that they nearly all fall into that range. But I guess RN/idine wouldn't want to admit that at least a few of their member restaurants are just so-so or even real stinkers. (By the way, I gave a "1" to the crummy restaurant, as I recall.)
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Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
Thanks for misreading/misconstruing my post. My words were:
Yes, I've seen "negative comments" -- that's not the same thing as "really negative ratings." The rating is the numerical value (1 through 5) you assign. You may see some "negative comments," but how many actual ratings of 1 or 2 do you see? A "mediocre" rating of a restaurant on idine would be a 3, which is pretty rare. Most are in the range of 4 to 5. Not really useful or even credible that they nearly all fall into that range. But I guess RN/idine wouldn't want to admit that at least a few of their member restaurants are just so-so or even real stinkers. (By the way, I gave a "1" to the crummy restaurant, as I recall.)
There was one local joint that I never got to visit that had a 2.8 overall, though all the individual numbers were above 3.0!
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Originally Posted by alanh
For March, they're offering a flat 50 miles for rating dines of $25 or more (at least on Delta and United).
Hopefully this is the start of a policy reversal. I have exactly 1 dine over all myprograms for 2009 because of this change, just not worth it to go out of my way. This particular offer is still not going to get me to bite as the bulk of the restaurants near me are fast food counter service where a $25 bill is unrealistic and I am not going to speculate in gift certs.
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"Earn 50 AAdvantage Bonus Miles on every dine! Just rate and review your dines.
Here's your opportunity to tell us what you think and earn American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles with the March Survey Bonus! Rating and reviewing restaurants has always been a great way to share valuable feedback with other members as well as restaurant owners. Now, not only do you get to help out other members, but you'll get something for yourself too. We are giving you 50 AAdvantage bonus miles for each survey you fill out after you dine.
• Visit any participating restaurant, bar or club between 3/1/09 and 3/31/09 and spend at least $25.
• Log in to My Account Center within 30 days of your visit and fill out the survey for your dines.
It's the quickest way to add 50 AAdvantage® bonus miles to every dine! You don't need to register and there's no limit to the amount of AAdvantage® bonus miles you can earn!"
Pitiful! It seems obvious nobody is rating since we lost five miles per dollar for rating, and now they want to bait us with - 50 miles for rating each dine over $25, during the month of March.
So, under the Dec 2008 regimen, if you dined to earn the 500 bonus miles and spent $150, you would have earned 750 miles plus 750 bonus miles for rating, plus 500 miles for making $150 = 2,000 miles. Under this new silly offer, that might entail anything from one to a maximum of six dines - now, we'd earn 750 miles plus 50 - 300 for rating, and 500 bonus miles = 1,300 - 1,550 miles.
So, the questions I ask myself might be: "Do I want the fifty bonus miles per dine sufficiently to get e to take the time to do the ratings? Do I feel I want to encourage them with this poor alternative? Do I want to rise to the bait for one month? Would they up the ante if I do not?"
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So, the questions I ask myself might be: "Do I want the fifty bonus miles per dine sufficiently to get e to take the time to do the ratings? Do I feel I want to encourage them with this poor alternative? Do I want to rise to the bait for one month? Would they up the ante if I do not?"
I sent them an email saying that a max of 2 miles/$ wasn't worth my time to type in the password to log in, let alone rating..
The 50 bonus miles for taking the surveys are for AA, DL and US RN accounts. I don't know about the other airlines. Remember the dines have to be $25 or more between 3/1 and 3/31.
Presumably, if you had a $50 dine, you could split it onto 2 credit cards and rate it twice?
I haven't decided if I want to give in and play this game with them. I think I will just avoid i-dine in March so I don't fold!
If you can get them to give you two bills, then I see no problem with your plan. One time I had to wait to be seated so I hung out at the bar. I had to pay the bar bill before being seated and then I had a second bill for my meal and any extra drinks. I put both bills on the same CC and earned two dines that night towards the 11 dines needed for VIP. I even think I had to fill out two surveys as well, but I am not 100% sure on that..
Or you could just go the bar in the restaurant before you sit down to eat and pay for one with one card and dinner with another.
My words were:
But I guess RN/idine wouldn't want to admit that at least a few of their member restaurants are just so-so or even real stinkers. (By the way, I gave a "1" to the crummy restaurant, as I recall.)
Earn fifty bogus miles...
