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1- Sep 6 2023 - End of football season 2024: receive 15% off at participating properties with the code GOJALIN15. News release here
2- Nov 3 2023: Earn 2X points and get 5% off. Book by December 5, 2023 for stays completed between Nov 3, 2023, and Apr 30, 2024. Use code STAYNOW to book. 659 participating properties shown here https://world.hyatt.com/content/gp/e...ibilities.html
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Hyatt Discount Codes (many are Corporate)
Jun 26, 2015, 10:38 pm
#932
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
I've used the IBM code for years and have been asked to verify once (GH HK; Feb. 2015). Fortunately, I was able to provide proof. I will say / warn individuals reading this, be ready to pay rack rate, in case you can't provide proof.
In my mind, the years and all the discounts I've benefited having to pay "rack rate" because I couldn't verify, wouldn't be bad. The years of savings and upgrades would be pay for the upcharge ...
In my mind, the years and all the discounts I've benefited having to pay "rack rate" because I couldn't verify, wouldn't be bad. The years of savings and upgrades would be pay for the upcharge ...
Worse case is 'walk up' rate- what a room would cost to book right then.
Or you walk away, right? For example, lets say you reserve at $150. The room is guaranteed. You show. They question. They say the rate is 500. Can they charge you $150 if you decline the higher rate? (you DID show)
IMO most terms and conditions are silent on this issue ..
Jun 27, 2015, 12:49 pm
#935
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
and they say 'well you booked an IBM rate'
and you say "oh, ....then how much is it?"
and they say "$500"
and you say 'no thank you'
What is their recourse? Can they charge you the $150 even thought you were a 'show'? can they force you to pay more than you agreed to pay?
SOME properties actually address this in the terms and conditons- if you book a room that you do not quantify for, the charge will be the 'then available' rate. But many are silent.
Oh please.
I guess you work in the legal field, huh?
Jun 28, 2015, 5:38 am
#937
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
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Posts: 41,109
I would advise against this. Hyatt has asked us several times to take down this thread because of the codes contained in it. We've been able to satisfy by saying that what is posted is up to the members and that the thread is not managed by Flyertalk or the mods in anyway. Having a wiki with all the codes listed would lessen our argument. And having the discussion in this one thread helps it not proliferate to other threads.
FWIW, I used to be the mod over on the National car rental forum. National had approached Flyertalk to take down the discount code thread, I strongly resisted and FT management agreed with an edit to the disclaimer. National then went an alternative way by contacting the member who maintained the listing through an unaffiliated car rental review site (think blog) and threatened him with legal action to remove the listing. He asked me to delete which I did but then resigned immediately as mod since I can't support a company that is so underhanded.
Long story short, I'd leave this thread the way it is, rather a jumbled listing to maximize its chances of surviving. Not that I even think that Hyatt would do something like a National did.
FWIW, I used to be the mod over on the National car rental forum. National had approached Flyertalk to take down the discount code thread, I strongly resisted and FT management agreed with an edit to the disclaimer. National then went an alternative way by contacting the member who maintained the listing through an unaffiliated car rental review site (think blog) and threatened him with legal action to remove the listing. He asked me to delete which I did but then resigned immediately as mod since I can't support a company that is so underhanded.
Long story short, I'd leave this thread the way it is, rather a jumbled listing to maximize its chances of surviving. Not that I even think that Hyatt would do something like a National did.
but thank you for taking this stance
^
Jun 28, 2015, 5:44 am
#938
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I work for a fortune 200 company; we use concur; I was looking for our company codes to all the chains we had agreements
I called HR (they thought I was nuts)
I called Travel Accounting (ditto)
I called Travel (call the travel agent that runs concur)
I called travel agent (no idea, they just run it thru the system)
I finally over time went to each chain and went in and showed my ID and asked them what is the code for this company?
That is how I got the codes for my own company
NO it is not easy to do
Jun 28, 2015, 6:21 am
#939
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
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Why would one pay rack rate?
Worse case is 'walk up' rate- what a room would cost to book right then.
Or you walk away, right? For example, lets say you reserve at $150. The room is guaranteed. You show. They question. They say the rate is 500. Can they charge you $150 if you decline the higher rate? (you DID show)
IMO most terms and conditions are silent on this issue ..
Worse case is 'walk up' rate- what a room would cost to book right then.
Or you walk away, right? For example, lets say you reserve at $150. The room is guaranteed. You show. They question. They say the rate is 500. Can they charge you $150 if you decline the higher rate? (you DID show)
IMO most terms and conditions are silent on this issue ..
You also don't seem to understand that each corporate receives reports of those who use their code. If they query your stay, Hyatt will investigate and they have your credit card details and contact information.
At the PH SYD using a large corporation's code that wasn't settled by account during the stay would arouse suspicion in itself. I do recall guest's paying RACK when it was discovered during their stay.
If you have no moral compass, ponder on that.
Jun 28, 2015, 9:58 am
#940
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
I disagree
I work for a fortune 200 company; we use concur; I was looking for our company codes to all the chains we had agreements
I called HR (they thought I was nuts)
I called Travel Accounting (ditto)
I called Travel (call the travel agent that runs concur)
I called travel agent (no idea, they just run it thru the system)
I finally over time went to each chain and went in and showed my ID and asked them what is the code for this company?
That is how I got the codes for my own company
NO it is not easy to do
I work for a fortune 200 company; we use concur; I was looking for our company codes to all the chains we had agreements
I called HR (they thought I was nuts)
I called Travel Accounting (ditto)
I called Travel (call the travel agent that runs concur)
I called travel agent (no idea, they just run it thru the system)
I finally over time went to each chain and went in and showed my ID and asked them what is the code for this company?
That is how I got the codes for my own company
NO it is not easy to do
Took 2 seconds.
Jun 28, 2015, 10:03 am
#941
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
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Interesting that you don't think you're going to be charged the cancellation fee...
You also don't seem to understand that each corporate receives reports of those who use their code. If they query your stay, Hyatt will investigate and they have your credit card details and contact information.
At the PH SYD using a large corporation's code that wasn't settled by account during the stay would arouse suspicion in itself. I do recall guest's paying RACK when it was discovered during their stay.
If you have no moral compass, ponder on that.
You also don't seem to understand that each corporate receives reports of those who use their code. If they query your stay, Hyatt will investigate and they have your credit card details and contact information.
At the PH SYD using a large corporation's code that wasn't settled by account during the stay would arouse suspicion in itself. I do recall guest's paying RACK when it was discovered during their stay.
If you have no moral compass, ponder on that.
My company (large fortune 100 company) recently had a note in travel that asked for employees to stay at a certain hotel in the N.Bay because they were coming up for negotiation to everyone booking in the bay area.
Last edited by austin_modern; Jun 28, 2015 at 10:15 am
Jun 28, 2015, 12:01 pm
#942
Moderator: Alaska Mileage Plan
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 12,302
the company could give two poots that you use their codes - in fact they would prefer you do as you get more volume onto their numbers allowing for higher negotiations with hyatt or individual hotels. They arent subsidizing these rates so this is nothing more than volume tracking for volume discounts.
The most obvious benefit of controlling rate usage is last minute bookings. Very few corporate rate programs have Last Room Availability (LRA). If an investment bank can't get a merger team into it's contracted hotel because its rate has been sold out to unaffiliated "consultants," there would certainly be repercussions.
Jun 28, 2015, 12:18 pm
#943
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Programs: AA EXP...couple hotels and cars too
Posts: 4,548
What will they charge you? It is not like there is a legal statue that says "if you attempt fraud they charge you whatever they want"
There are two SEPARATE issues: is it fraud. Maybe. Lets even say yes to get past the chest thumping and moral superiority nonsense.
What can the desk clerk/hotel charge you if you refuse the upcharge?
They can SAY 'you pay RACK'...and I submit, unless there is text in the terms and conditions under which you gave them a deposit, that you are not obligated to pay rack if you choose not to stay. Furthermore, can they take the deposit, refuse you a room, and keep the deposit even if you showed up? You arent a no-show...
I submit there is a legal vacuum around this specific issue in many terms and conditions.
Interesting that you don't think you're going to be charged the cancellation fee...
You also don't seem to understand that each corporate receives reports of those who use their code. If they query your stay, Hyatt will investigate and they have your credit card details and contact information.
At the PH SYD using a large corporation's code that wasn't settled by account during the stay would arouse suspicion in itself. I do recall guest's paying RACK when it was discovered during their stay.
If you have no moral compass, ponder on that.
You also don't seem to understand that each corporate receives reports of those who use their code. If they query your stay, Hyatt will investigate and they have your credit card details and contact information.
At the PH SYD using a large corporation's code that wasn't settled by account during the stay would arouse suspicion in itself. I do recall guest's paying RACK when it was discovered during their stay.
If you have no moral compass, ponder on that.
The terms and conditions do not (usually) say "If you are not qualified for the rate you reserve, your rate will be the rack rate"
On RARE occasion Ive seen "if you do not qualify for the booked rate, you will pay the walk up rate" in the advance terms and conditions. Which is not RACK.
Happened to me once in PHX with a rate I had at 249. they wanted $480. I sat on a chair in the lobby, booked a room for $339 on my ipad. Desk clerk said "Glad you were able to book that, they make us charge that to walk ups".
2. The idea that a corp would see a night hotel stay somewhere, flag it, then have the hotel come back to a guest either during the stay or weeks/months/years later is truly laughable
3. The Park Hyatt SYD is not really a useful example, is it? I have no doubt their processes, checks and policies are strict.
4. You worry about your moral compass, I'll worry about mine. How I deal with PEOPLE is entirely different than my moral feelings towards CORPORATIONS.
ps austin-modern..Ill PM you, happy to help your company's cause.
I KID, I KID!!!
Jun 28, 2015, 3:42 pm
#944
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,531
OK, I know people on the internet need to judge... lets get past that and actually get to the issue.
What will they charge you? It is not like there is a legal statue that says "if you attempt fraud they charge you whatever they want"
There are two SEPARATE issues: is it fraud. Maybe. Lets even say yes to get past the chest thumping and moral superiority nonsense.
What can the desk clerk/hotel charge you if you refuse the upcharge?
They can SAY 'you pay RACK'...and I submit, unless there is text in the terms and conditions under which you gave them a deposit, that you are not obligated to pay rack if you choose not to stay. Furthermore, can they take the deposit, refuse you a room, and keep the deposit even if you showed up? You arent a no-show...
I submit there is a legal vacuum around this specific issue in many terms and conditions.
1. The terms and conditions state you will pay for the room if you no show. Period.
The terms and conditions do not (usually) say "If you are not qualified for the rate you reserve, your rate will be the rack rate"
On RARE occasion Ive seen "if you do not qualify for the booked rate, you will pay the walk up rate" in the advance terms and conditions. Which is not RACK.
Happened to me once in PHX with a rate I had at 249. they wanted $480. I sat on a chair in the lobby, booked a room for $339 on my ipad. Desk clerk said "Glad you were able to book that, they make us charge that to walk ups".
2. The idea that a corp would see a night hotel stay somewhere, flag it, then have the hotel come back to a guest either during the stay or weeks/months/years later is truly laughable
3. The Park Hyatt SYD is not really a useful example, is it? I have no doubt their processes, checks and policies are strict.
4. You worry about your moral compass, I'll worry about mine. How I deal with PEOPLE is entirely different than my moral feelings towards CORPORATIONS.
ps austin-modern..Ill PM you, happy to help your company's cause.
I KID, I KID!!!
What will they charge you? It is not like there is a legal statue that says "if you attempt fraud they charge you whatever they want"
There are two SEPARATE issues: is it fraud. Maybe. Lets even say yes to get past the chest thumping and moral superiority nonsense.
What can the desk clerk/hotel charge you if you refuse the upcharge?
They can SAY 'you pay RACK'...and I submit, unless there is text in the terms and conditions under which you gave them a deposit, that you are not obligated to pay rack if you choose not to stay. Furthermore, can they take the deposit, refuse you a room, and keep the deposit even if you showed up? You arent a no-show...
I submit there is a legal vacuum around this specific issue in many terms and conditions.
1. The terms and conditions state you will pay for the room if you no show. Period.
The terms and conditions do not (usually) say "If you are not qualified for the rate you reserve, your rate will be the rack rate"
On RARE occasion Ive seen "if you do not qualify for the booked rate, you will pay the walk up rate" in the advance terms and conditions. Which is not RACK.
Happened to me once in PHX with a rate I had at 249. they wanted $480. I sat on a chair in the lobby, booked a room for $339 on my ipad. Desk clerk said "Glad you were able to book that, they make us charge that to walk ups".
2. The idea that a corp would see a night hotel stay somewhere, flag it, then have the hotel come back to a guest either during the stay or weeks/months/years later is truly laughable
3. The Park Hyatt SYD is not really a useful example, is it? I have no doubt their processes, checks and policies are strict.
4. You worry about your moral compass, I'll worry about mine. How I deal with PEOPLE is entirely different than my moral feelings towards CORPORATIONS.
ps austin-modern..Ill PM you, happy to help your company's cause.
I KID, I KID!!!
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Jun 28, 2015, 3:42 pm
#945
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
Posts: 8,520
And if the reservation's cancellation terms are to cancel 4PM the day prior, you don't think the hotel will charge the card they have on file if you walk out?
You seem to have a very narrow view of what the property can actually do.
You seem to have a very narrow view of what the property can actually do.
