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#796
OK....I'm game, without the intention of offending anyone....
I really don't get why people are more upset about someone abusing a corporate rate that is reserved for a charity anymore than someone trying the same abuse on any other corporate rate they are not entitled to.
It's Hyatt you are abusing, nothing really to do with the entity the rate is assigned to.
I find any abuse of these rates equally offensive, that's to say... Not that much. It's upto the hotel to set the rules and rates for these discounts, and also to implement the enforcement of the rules. I almost find it just as offensive if I have to pay more than someone else just because they belong to some club or work for a specific corporation..... But I also get that is the way things work.
And it would be relatively easy to verify the validity of a corporate rate based on your account. But I guess the hotels are reluctant to implement that in fear of losing any bookings.... And since they control rates and availability for these rates they probably aren't even bothered that much... Any booking is better than none.
The fear/shame of getting caught however prevents me from using any of the corporate rates.... But I sometimes do feel cheated when I see what the difference really can be.
I really don't get why people are more upset about someone abusing a corporate rate that is reserved for a charity anymore than someone trying the same abuse on any other corporate rate they are not entitled to.
It's Hyatt you are abusing, nothing really to do with the entity the rate is assigned to.
I find any abuse of these rates equally offensive, that's to say... Not that much. It's upto the hotel to set the rules and rates for these discounts, and also to implement the enforcement of the rules. I almost find it just as offensive if I have to pay more than someone else just because they belong to some club or work for a specific corporation..... But I also get that is the way things work.
And it would be relatively easy to verify the validity of a corporate rate based on your account. But I guess the hotels are reluctant to implement that in fear of losing any bookings.... And since they control rates and availability for these rates they probably aren't even bothered that much... Any booking is better than none.
The fear/shame of getting caught however prevents me from using any of the corporate rates.... But I sometimes do feel cheated when I see what the difference really can be.
#798
Brituchenite , Aug 10, 2013 7:56 am
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I really don't get why people are more upset about someone abusing a corporate rate that is reserved for a charity anymore than someone trying the same abuse on any other corporate rate they are not entitled to.
It's Hyatt you are abusing, nothing really to do with the entity the rate is assigned to.
I find any abuse of these rates equally offensive, that's to say... Not that much. It's upto the hotel to set the rules and rates for these discounts, and also to implement the enforcement of the rules. I almost find it just as offensive if I have to pay more than someone else just because they belong to some club or work for a specific corporation..... But I also get that is the way things work.
And it would be relatively easy to verify the validity of a corporate rate based on your account. But I guess the hotels are reluctant to implement that in fear of losing any bookings.... And since they control rates and availability for these rates they probably aren't even bothered that much... Any booking is better than none.
The fear/shame of getting caught however prevents me from using any of the corporate rates.... But I sometimes do feel cheated when I see what the difference really can be.
Originally Posted by RTW1
OK....I'm game, without the intention of offending anyone....I really don't get why people are more upset about someone abusing a corporate rate that is reserved for a charity anymore than someone trying the same abuse on any other corporate rate they are not entitled to.
It's Hyatt you are abusing, nothing really to do with the entity the rate is assigned to.
I find any abuse of these rates equally offensive, that's to say... Not that much. It's upto the hotel to set the rules and rates for these discounts, and also to implement the enforcement of the rules. I almost find it just as offensive if I have to pay more than someone else just because they belong to some club or work for a specific corporation..... But I also get that is the way things work.
And it would be relatively easy to verify the validity of a corporate rate based on your account. But I guess the hotels are reluctant to implement that in fear of losing any bookings.... And since they control rates and availability for these rates they probably aren't even bothered that much... Any booking is better than none.
The fear/shame of getting caught however prevents me from using any of the corporate rates.... But I sometimes do feel cheated when I see what the difference really can be.
I am a consultant and I work for many organizations, most of which give me the corporate code so I can use it when I travel. I have never been asked for proof. But, if I ever goto Asia and use the IBM or J&J code, how can I "prove" that I am allowed to use it as I don't have a company business card or email address.
#799
The person who gave you the corporate code should send you a letter on company letterhead to the effect that you are a consultant authorized to use the corporate code.
#800
Quote:
I really don't get why people are more upset about someone abusing a corporate rate that is reserved for a charity anymore than someone trying the same abuse on any other corporate rate they are not entitled to.
It's Hyatt you are abusing, nothing really to do with the entity the rate is assigned to.
I find any abuse of these rates equally offensive, that's to say... Not that much. It's upto the hotel to set the rules and rates for these discounts, and also to implement the enforcement of the rules. I almost find it just as offensive if I have to pay more than someone else just because they belong to some club or work for a specific corporation..... But I also get that is the way things work.
And it would be relatively easy to verify the validity of a corporate rate based on your account. But I guess the hotels are reluctant to implement that in fear of losing any bookings.... And since they control rates and availability for these rates they probably aren't even bothered that much... Any booking is better than none.
The fear/shame of getting caught however prevents me from using any of the corporate rates.... But I sometimes do feel cheated when I see what the difference really can be.
I think the difference with a charity rate, assuming its quite low, is that it's possible it ISN'T a profitable rate for the chain. Could be a break-even or loss rate that they are offering to a charity because it's a good thing to do. And abuse of such a rate could result in it being pulled (which is bad for the charity), whereas abuse of the IBM rate isn't going to result in them pulling IBM's rate (they are well aware IBM would happily take the business elsewhere).Originally Posted by RTW1
OK....I'm game, without the intention of offending anyone....I really don't get why people are more upset about someone abusing a corporate rate that is reserved for a charity anymore than someone trying the same abuse on any other corporate rate they are not entitled to.
It's Hyatt you are abusing, nothing really to do with the entity the rate is assigned to.
I find any abuse of these rates equally offensive, that's to say... Not that much. It's upto the hotel to set the rules and rates for these discounts, and also to implement the enforcement of the rules. I almost find it just as offensive if I have to pay more than someone else just because they belong to some club or work for a specific corporation..... But I also get that is the way things work.
And it would be relatively easy to verify the validity of a corporate rate based on your account. But I guess the hotels are reluctant to implement that in fear of losing any bookings.... And since they control rates and availability for these rates they probably aren't even bothered that much... Any booking is better than none.
The fear/shame of getting caught however prevents me from using any of the corporate rates.... But I sometimes do feel cheated when I see what the difference really can be.
#801
MileageAddict , Aug 15, 2013 9:02 am
Original Member, Moderator: Hotel Deals and MilesBuzz
Why not just check in with the Hyatt smartphone app prior to arrival? Wouldn't that bypass any corporate code and ID issues with a check-in staffperson?
#802
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You can do web checkout too to avoid the desk entirely if you want. If you're a diamond member and they forget to remove breakfast / internet charges then you could be out of luck on that front though Originally Posted by MileageAddict
Why not just check in with the Hyatt smartphone app prior to arrival? Wouldn't that bypass any corporate code and ID issues with a check-in staffperson?
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Would anyone share the experirnce of web check-in to bypass the ID checking? Thanks.Originally Posted by lowimpact
You can do web checkout too to avoid the desk entirely if you want. If you're a diamond member and they forget to remove breakfast / internet charges then you could be out of luck on that front though
#804
taipeiflyer , Aug 15, 2013 9:52 am
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It will not work at MANY properties... for instance, most Park Hyatt properties, where they greet you before you even enter the building and usually have someone escort you to the front desk.Originally Posted by lukapapa
Would anyone share the experirnce of web check-in to bypass the ID checking? Thanks.
#805
MileageAddict , Aug 15, 2013 10:19 am
Original Member, Moderator: Hotel Deals and MilesBuzz
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Why not? You'd still check in online prior to arrival. All the staffmember would be doing is welcoming you, explaining amenities and providing you with keys. No?Originally Posted by taipeiflyer
It will not work at MANY properties... for instance, most Park Hyatt properties, where they greet you before you even enter the building and usually have someone escort you to the front desk.
#806
taipeiflyer , Aug 15, 2013 10:59 am
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At Grand Hyatt Taipei, I had already checked in and had my luggage stored, but had not received my keys.. when I went to get my keys, they specifically asked for my corporate ID and I had to go upstairs (my luggage had since been delivered to my room), get my card and come back down just to show them. At PH properties, they ask regardless of whether you have done a smartphone check-in or not...Originally Posted by MileageAddict
Why not? You'd still check in online prior to arrival. All the staffmember would be doing is welcoming you, explaining amenities and providing you with keys. No?
#807
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Is this with all corporate codes? I don't recall being asked for ID?Originally Posted by taipeiflyer
At Grand Hyatt Taipei, I had already checked in and had my luggage stored, but had not received my keys.. when I went to get my keys, they specifically asked for my corporate ID and I had to go upstairs (my luggage had since been delivered to my room), get my card and come back down just to show them. At PH properties, they ask regardless of whether you have done a smartphone check-in or not...
#808
taipeiflyer , Aug 15, 2013 12:21 pm
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I posted this up awhile ago in this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyatt...l#post20740998Originally Posted by wolf539
Is this with all corporate codes? I don't recall being asked for ID?
#809
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When I do a web check-in for my flight, they still check my passport.Originally Posted by MileageAddict
Why not? You'd still check in online prior to arrival. All the staffmember would be doing is welcoming you, explaining amenities and providing you with keys. No?
While the security concerns are different, I would assume that the hotel would still want to confirm that you are whom you claim to be?