Who has moved business from other chains TO WOH?
Jul 19, 2017, 11:07 pm
#1
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Who has moved business from other chains TO WOH?
In multiple WOH threads, FTers have indicated they moved business away from Hyatt to other chains like Hilton, Marriott etc, due to the new program WOH, and are merely burning their points. Reasons for doing so are manifold, and not the intention of this thread to discuss.
I thought of starting this thread to actually understand, who has moved their business FROM other chains TO WOH and what the reasons are.
Curious....
Thanks
I thought of starting this thread to actually understand, who has moved their business FROM other chains TO WOH and what the reasons are.
Curious....
Thanks
Jul 20, 2017, 1:15 pm
#2
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: UA 1K 3MM Lifetime, AA PlatPro,Marriott Titanium Elite Lifetime, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 741
I've been a Diamond for 10+ years, usually qualifying with 25 one night stays. I wanted to keep the status for at least one more year - partly because I didn't want to loose benefits and partly because I'd like to see if upgrades improve when Globalist ranks thin out. The recent double point promotion provided added incentive to move nights into Hyatt. So, essentially, I will have moved 35 additional nights to Hyatt this year.
Jul 20, 2017, 1:43 pm
#3
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,374
As badly as WOH sucks, Hyatt hotels themselves are still generally solid. I always prefer a purpose-built Hyatt Place or Hyatt House over their Hilton or Marriott counterparts. And I have gold status with both Hilton and Marriott - no status with Hyatt.
Jul 20, 2017, 2:17 pm
#4
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Location: Pacific Northwest
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Yes... one stay, seven nights that would have unlikely gone to Hyatt without WoH.
WoH made me Explorist instead of Platinum, so I found myself with four club awards. I decided to book one long award stay to use at least one of the club awards and all my points before my awesome status expired. Even got the Hyatt credit card to get more points for the award. Without the Club award (i.e., without Explorist status) the seven nights would have gone to some other chain.
One last mini-hurrah, thanks for WoH!
(as for revenue stays... zero. WoH has put any status aspirations aside, so the only reasons for me to book Hyatt would be price, location, or promos, but that's been discussed ad nauseam elsewhere.)
WoH made me Explorist instead of Platinum, so I found myself with four club awards. I decided to book one long award stay to use at least one of the club awards and all my points before my awesome status expired. Even got the Hyatt credit card to get more points for the award. Without the Club award (i.e., without Explorist status) the seven nights would have gone to some other chain.
One last mini-hurrah, thanks for WoH!
(as for revenue stays... zero. WoH has put any status aspirations aside, so the only reasons for me to book Hyatt would be price, location, or promos, but that's been discussed ad nauseam elsewhere.)
Jul 20, 2017, 2:46 pm
#5
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: DL DM, AA Gold, Bonvoy Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Amex Plat
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I've been a Diamond for 10+ years, usually qualifying with 25 one night stays. I wanted to keep the status for at least one more year - partly because I didn't want to loose benefits and partly because I'd like to see if upgrades improve when Globalist ranks thin out. The recent double point promotion provided added incentive to move nights into Hyatt. So, essentially, I will have moved 35 additional nights to Hyatt this year.
I basically will be flipping my stay pattern from SPG to Hyatt (Still getting to SPG platinum, but on stays). While others have found WoH to be very disappointing, I have found it to be generally a step up for my needs/what I value.
Jul 20, 2017, 5:18 pm
#6
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, SPG Plat, UA GS
Posts: 238
Due to WOH changes, moving 40-50 nights from SPG to Hyatt.
Reasons:
1) Nights 61-100 essentially have a 1K points /night running promotion.
2) TSU upgrades on award stays has increased usability and IMO, this is the best benefit of any elite program.
3) Breakfast at Hyatt remains far better than SPG/Marriott or Hilton.
Reasons:
1) Nights 61-100 essentially have a 1K points /night running promotion.
2) TSU upgrades on award stays has increased usability and IMO, this is the best benefit of any elite program.
3) Breakfast at Hyatt remains far better than SPG/Marriott or Hilton.
Jul 22, 2017, 8:41 am
#7
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: York, PA
Programs: MRSPG LT Tit, HH Diamond, Hertz Pres.
Posts: 1,737
These are all solid answers, but for me and many others, not enough of a suburban footprint to allow for 60 visits. Couple that with award does not count, no thanks. Keeping my LT SPG plat, renewing HH D and moving on. 0 paid stays thus far
Jul 22, 2017, 8:49 am
#8
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Given the way certain corporate customers were offered status matches/challenges, I would expect some of those folks to have moved over to WOH.
Jul 22, 2017, 9:01 am
#9
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Programs: Hyatt LT Globalist, Marriot LT Titanium, UA 2.4MM, HH Gold, AS MVPG
Posts: 3,400
Staying almost exclusive at Hyatt as I definitely want to re qualify for Globalist. The benefits on personal vacation travel overseas are very good. Also just about 60,000 base points away from LT Globalist. On top of that want to see details of what Marriott/Starwood do to my LT SPG Platinum in the new program. Staying with them just enough so my combined total nights in the two programs gets to 750.
Jul 22, 2017, 1:52 pm
#10
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
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I've moved all my Hilton stays to Hyatt, basically abandon HH status in order to get to 60 nights for Globalist. I'll stay at SPG when Hyatt options don't exist or are poor. SPG LTP and by extension MR Plat gives me the flexibility to try to maintain WoH status.
Jul 22, 2017, 5:15 pm
#11
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There's also Marriott rollover to enable one to switch to Hyatt.
Jul 22, 2017, 5:48 pm
#12
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
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I did not stay at Hyatt at all before 2016, until they gave status match for SPG Platinum about 1.5-2 years ago. Then I tried Hyatt, liked it, and requalified with over 60 nights per year. With the WoH changes, it weeds out some 25-35 night Globalist members so it improves my odds of suite upgrades. And now I get extra benefits each 10 nights above 60 nights so I have been actively trying to move Hilton stays to Hyatt because I already qualified for Hilton Diamond; extra stays at Hilton are useless, unlike extra stays at Hyatt.
Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 pm
#13
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NYC
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Plat Pro, Bonvoy Lifetime Platinum, JetBlue Mosaic 3, Amtrak Select
Posts: 966
I am moving more nights from SPG to WOH because of the 60 night qualification vs the 25 stays with SPG. Will most likely be the first time I'm not Plat50 with SPG. But, with the upcoming merger and the fact I rely on Egencia for most of my stays, I need to maintain WOH status.
Not a single Marriott hotel earns points/status via Egencia, and if that is the case post merger, then I'll lose my ability to retain top tier status, while the vast majority of Hyatt hotels earn points/stays on Egencia. It also helps that a lot of my travel is to DC, Boston, Chicago and Ottawa which have an abundance of Hyatt and SPG hotels
Not a single Marriott hotel earns points/status via Egencia, and if that is the case post merger, then I'll lose my ability to retain top tier status, while the vast majority of Hyatt hotels earn points/stays on Egencia. It also helps that a lot of my travel is to DC, Boston, Chicago and Ottawa which have an abundance of Hyatt and SPG hotels
Jul 24, 2017, 7:42 am
#14
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, SPG Plat, FPC Plat, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
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For the last 6 years (rookie traveler here) I've been top tier at Hilton, Marriott, SPG and Fairmont. I only tried out Hyatt for the first time last year when they offered a status match. Ever since then, I've been staying at Hyatt whenever possible. Even with the new WOH program, I find it more generous than the other programs.