Andaz Tokyo - REVIEW - MASTER THREAD
#31
I think they just did the whole Andaz concept because that was the brand still missing in Tokyo (I must say that I'm looking foward to a HP Tokyo). But it just doesn't fit.
I think the concept in itself is flawed already. When I'm a paying guest I don't want to be treated as a friend, because that's not what I am. Sure a bit of a more casual approach can work, especially if the setting is right like at an holiday location. But not if it's forced.
Do what the Andaz Amsterdam does, express yourself a little in design and have some awesome public spaces to enjoy. Even bring out the "younger" crowd to be a bit more casual. But still focus on service, and not on being a friend. That might work in San Diego where everybody is there to party, but not at most other locations.
And for all the quirky design talent that's available in Japan, this surely looks like an opportunity missed. But since for me a hotel in a big city starts with looking at the location, this was never one of my prefered properties anyway.
And who would want a Japanese property with just foreigners working there. That would only work in my book when they are of the long legged and blonde kind. But those places already exist....
I think the concept in itself is flawed already. When I'm a paying guest I don't want to be treated as a friend, because that's not what I am. Sure a bit of a more casual approach can work, especially if the setting is right like at an holiday location. But not if it's forced.
Do what the Andaz Amsterdam does, express yourself a little in design and have some awesome public spaces to enjoy. Even bring out the "younger" crowd to be a bit more casual. But still focus on service, and not on being a friend. That might work in San Diego where everybody is there to party, but not at most other locations.
And for all the quirky design talent that's available in Japan, this surely looks like an opportunity missed. But since for me a hotel in a big city starts with looking at the location, this was never one of my prefered properties anyway.
And who would want a Japanese property with just foreigners working there. That would only work in my book when they are of the long legged and blonde kind. But those places already exist....
Last edited by RTW1; Jun 11, 2014 at 8:21 pm
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The long-term plan for the Toranomon-Shimbashi corridor is for it to be the next Shiodome or Roppongi Hills, so by the time the Olympics come it may turn out to be very central (especially for business travelers). Incidentally, over the next ten years Mori Building plans 1 trillion JPY of developments in the Toranomon-Roppongi corridor.
#33
That I didn't know.... But being the first is never easy.
And I've seen enough of these wild real estate schemes to reserve judgement untill it's actually finished. And who needs another Roppongi anyway :-).
And I've seen enough of these wild real estate schemes to reserve judgement untill it's actually finished. And who needs another Roppongi anyway :-).
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I think they just did the whole Andaz concept because that was the brand still missing in Tokyo (I must say that I'm looking foward to a HP Tokyo). But it just doesn't fit.
I think the concept in itself is flawed already. When I'm a paying guest I don't want to be treated as a friend, because that's not what I am. Sure a bit of a more casual approach can work, especially if the setting is right like at an holiday location. But not if it's forced.
I think the concept in itself is flawed already. When I'm a paying guest I don't want to be treated as a friend, because that's not what I am. Sure a bit of a more casual approach can work, especially if the setting is right like at an holiday location. But not if it's forced.
When I went to the lobby to get a cappuccino...my cappuccino in my house...I could feel the pained expression on the staff's face, and see the "Aa, okyakusama..." thought bubble over their head. Most couldn't resist the temptation to come over and do something.
Or when I finished the only Coke Zero in my room and wanted another. I could have called Housekeeping, but I decided to go down to my refrigerator to get one for myself. I got blocked by an okamapoi man who insisted on grabbing my drink and pouring it for me.
NO! THIS IS MY HOUSE! LET ME GET MY OWN DAMNED CAPPUCCINO AND COKE ZERO AND DO WHAT I WILL WITH IT IN PEACE!
Even if I still have to sleep in a room that reminds me of an insane asylum and thwarts my attempts at watching television, I would still like to stay at the real Andaz Tokyo...the one hidden by an impenetrable wall of さようでございます.
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In one comment you say the staff is too accommodating, in another you're disappointed they didn't show you something that (I think) is quite obvious and not part of standard room tour (at least the ones I've gotten).
As well, isn't typical Japanese service (over-politeness) part of being 'local' and of the neighborhood? Why is the eagerness of a young staff at a brand new hotel on opening day such a surprise?
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I'm saying that it would have been a good thing for me in this case had someone explained that to me. I don't see how you jump to extrapolating that I would like every basic tenet of life explained.
I don't like the impression that the clash of Andaz values and Japanese traditional service gave. You are free to go there and take away whatever impression that you feel.
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Some other thoughts:
•I'm a lowly Hyatt Platinum, booked the opening offer Andaz King, but was upgraded to Tower View without asking at check-in.
•Only 50 out of 164 rooms were for sale the first day of operation. They wanted to make sure they were ready and will slowly open up the inventory.
•Everyone's extremely polite! But you can tell it's the first day open and some staff were very nervous. Staff don't speak English as well as the staff at PHT, and sometimes it gets lost in translation.
•5 minutes short walk to Toranomon Metro station on the Ginza line. The location doesn't bother me but there's really nothing in the vicinity.
•I actually liked the room decor, reminds me of Nobu Hotel in Vegas. The designer Tony Chi also did Grand Hyatt Taipei and Park Hyatt DC & Shanghai.
•The "Brandless" amenities are custom made by Japanese company Pelican Soap. The company has 50 years history and is very famous in Japan. However, I kind of wish they use the same Natura Bissé products they use at the spa. I really liked the Natura Bissé rosemary & white tea amenities at Nobu Hotel in Vegas.
•Tokyo Tower View from the room is amazing! But the heavy rain at night totally ruined it for me!
•Front desk manager Andrea is from London Andaz & she's so nice & helpful.
•I totally enjoyed my stay. Would I come back & stay again? Only if the room rates goes down or I'll stick with my favorite PHT.
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•The "Brandless" amenities are custom made by Japanese company Pelican Soap. The company has 50 years history and is very famous in Japan. However, I kind of wish they use the same Natura Bissé products they use at the spa. I really liked the Natura Bissé rosemary & white tea amenities at Nobu Hotel in Vegas.
It will be interesting to see what the service in this hotel is like when it is closer to capacity.
On another note: if you plan on going in the near future and need a swimsuit, try to request this well in advance. They still do not have rental clothes available, but somehow made one available for me when I asked about it (I suspect that they got it from the Grand Hyatt Tokyo)
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Checking my Gold Passport account, I received only 19 base points for this stay!
Also, the Retrieve Hotel Bill function does not allow one to select Andaz Tokyo.
Also, the Retrieve Hotel Bill function does not allow one to select Andaz Tokyo.