Jan 8, 2014, 7:43 am
Last edit by: hailstorm
Effective 7 Jan 2014, Hyatt Gold Passport offers bookings for a combination of points and cash for standard rooms. The points required are half of the points required for an all-points reservation. The following is a list of the points required plus co-pay for the 8 categories.
Cat 1 2,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 2 4,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 3 6,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 4 7,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 5 10,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 6 12,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 7 15,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 8 20,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
1) As of November 2015, these rates can be booked online. In some cases, using a corporate code may cause them not to be shown.
2) Availability is determined by the property; some properties almost always have availability, while other properties apparently never have.
3) Points are normally deducted at time of booking; cash portion is paid to the hotel at checkout.
4) If you cancel the reservation online, the points are usually but not always automatically re-credited; may be necessary to call/contact.
5) Only available for standard rooms, not for higher room categories, Club floor rooms, etc.
6) All elite tier benefits apply, and Diamond suite upgrades may be applied if available.
7) Stay and night credits are applicable for elite qualification and also for promotions; cash portion earns points as qualified hotel spend.
8) For non-US properties, the US dollar co-pay may be converted to the foreign currency at the time the reservation is made. Sometimes the conversion rate is set for the whole year, so may be more or less than the current exchange rate.
9) The cash co-pay is inclusive of taxes and "service" charges for properties that quote their rates as inclusive of T&S. If rates do not normally include T&S, the cash portion is subject to the T&S charges.
Cat 1 2,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 2 4,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 3 6,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 4 7,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 5 10,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 6 12,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 7 15,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 8 20,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
1) As of November 2015, these rates can be booked online. In some cases, using a corporate code may cause them not to be shown.
2) Availability is determined by the property; some properties almost always have availability, while other properties apparently never have.
3) Points are normally deducted at time of booking; cash portion is paid to the hotel at checkout.
4) If you cancel the reservation online, the points are usually but not always automatically re-credited; may be necessary to call/contact.
5) Only available for standard rooms, not for higher room categories, Club floor rooms, etc.
6) All elite tier benefits apply, and Diamond suite upgrades may be applied if available.
7) Stay and night credits are applicable for elite qualification and also for promotions; cash portion earns points as qualified hotel spend.
8) For non-US properties, the US dollar co-pay may be converted to the foreign currency at the time the reservation is made. Sometimes the conversion rate is set for the whole year, so may be more or less than the current exchange rate.
9) The cash co-pay is inclusive of taxes and "service" charges for properties that quote their rates as inclusive of T&S. If rates do not normally include T&S, the cash portion is subject to the T&S charges.
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Aug 14, 2015, 11:54 am
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Aug 14, 2015, 12:43 pm
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Sorry if has been asked before. I currently have 17000 pts. I would like to book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts. If i book a Points and Cash award category 5 room for 10000 pts + USD125 (normally 20000 pts), and then cancel the booking, would I get back 20000 pts so I can then book a category 5 club room which is 27000 pts? I don't think i can book a club room using pts and cash...
To play this game you must be staying at an IHG Hotel and not a Hyatt or any other chain
Aug 14, 2015, 1:41 pm
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And given IHC's recent policy of closing accounts for anything they call abuse, how likely is an account to survive doing this?
Aug 14, 2015, 4:14 pm
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I assume that the poster was thinking that this would be an IHG like arrangement, which would result in a roundabout way of purchasing points. Which, of course, is not the case with Hyatt, but means that the poster wasn't being ridiculous in at least considering the idea.
Aug 16, 2015, 6:05 pm
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I believe with Hyatt & SPG when you cx the res the $$ was never charged so no refund is necessary so you dont end buying any pts like with IHG
Aug 16, 2015, 8:56 pm
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this again will not work for Hyatt or SPG AFAIK. For IHG once you book C&P you are charged for the $$ portion, When you CX the res you dont get the $$ refunded but instead get x amount of pts put into your acct. Then those pts are yours to use as you see fit
I believe with Hyatt & SPG when you cx the res the $$ was never charged so no refund is necessary so you dont end buying any pts like with IHG
I believe with Hyatt & SPG when you cx the res the $$ was never charged so no refund is necessary so you dont end buying any pts like with IHG
Aug 17, 2015, 1:48 pm
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I've been having 50/50 luck with P&C on the smaller Cat 3 and Cat 4 properties, when I can't find a 20k Marriott or IHG or a 30k Hilton property to burn points on, or when I really value a 4pm check out.
It's not the best use of points, because most of the Cat 3/4 properties aren't really worth $175-$200/night. But I get a stay credit out of it and occasionally a closed lounge bonus, and I have enough Hyatt points that I need to spend them when close to useful.
It's not the best use of points, because most of the Cat 3/4 properties aren't really worth $175-$200/night. But I get a stay credit out of it and occasionally a closed lounge bonus, and I have enough Hyatt points that I need to spend them when close to useful.
Aug 23, 2015, 10:00 am
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I book about 90% of my stays on Points + Cash. I thought I had experienced every possible way of the Front Desk messing up my P+C reservation:
1. Charging me for both my portion (e.g. $75 for a Cat. 3) and HGP's portion (e.g. $50) at check-out
2. Assuming it's a straight award stay and not charging me anything at check-out (rare, but the most favorable result).
Now, for the first time, a wily third P+C screw-up has appeared!
3. Only charging me the HGP portion ($50) and not my portion ($75) of the bill
1. Charging me for both my portion (e.g. $75 for a Cat. 3) and HGP's portion (e.g. $50) at check-out
2. Assuming it's a straight award stay and not charging me anything at check-out (rare, but the most favorable result).
Now, for the first time, a wily third P+C screw-up has appeared!
3. Only charging me the HGP portion ($50) and not my portion ($75) of the bill
Aug 23, 2015, 8:02 pm
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As to post before. Never had an issue until my last few stays. Now each p&c was screwed up, either 1 or 3- either charged the reimbursement amount from Hyatt or both. Not sure what changed. Problem for me is the amount of time wasted straightening it all out.
As to post before. Never had an issue until my last few stays. Now each p&c was screwed up, either 1 or 3- either charged the reimbursement amount from Hyatt or both. Not sure what changed. Problem for me is the amount of time wasted straightening it all out.
Aug 26, 2015, 8:19 pm
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Sep 2, 2015, 11:10 am
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Finding P & C nights has been at any place I want to stay has been a pain. Trying to use up my DSU's. Tried emailing couple of places to see if they participate in P & C and all I get is an email saying they will get back to me and nothing more. My schedule is very flexible. Are there any hints to finding a P & C night other than just calling and asking?
Sep 2, 2015, 11:17 am
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Finding P & C nights has been at any place I want to stay has been a pain. Trying to use up my DSU's. Tried emailing couple of places to see if they participate in P & C and all I get is an email saying they will get back to me and nothing more. My schedule is very flexible. Are there any hints to finding a P & C night other than just calling and asking?
Sep 2, 2015, 2:08 pm
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Not impossible, even without a credit card.
Current promo is 65K for 25 nights. Add say 15 diamond amenity bonuses if you move around a bit and you get up to 80K. If you spend those on C&P in Category 2 that's 20 nights there (80K / 4K)... The cash portion also gets you another 6.5 x 25 x 55 = 9K more points which covers another couple of nights.
So, stay on Cash & Points in Category 1/2 hotels and you can come close to being self sufficient on points, as long as you have enough to get started...
Current promo is 65K for 25 nights. Add say 15 diamond amenity bonuses if you move around a bit and you get up to 80K. If you spend those on C&P in Category 2 that's 20 nights there (80K / 4K)... The cash portion also gets you another 6.5 x 25 x 55 = 9K more points which covers another couple of nights.
So, stay on Cash & Points in Category 1/2 hotels and you can come close to being self sufficient on points, as long as you have enough to get started...