Jan 8, 2014, 7:43 am
Last edit by: hailstorm
Effective 7 Jan 2014, Hyatt Gold Passport offers bookings for a combination of points and cash for standard rooms. The points required are half of the points required for an all-points reservation. The following is a list of the points required plus co-pay for the 8 categories.
Cat 1 2,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 2 4,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 3 6,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 4 7,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 5 10,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 6 12,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 7 15,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 8 20,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
1) As of November 2015, these rates can be booked online. In some cases, using a corporate code may cause them not to be shown.
2) Availability is determined by the property; some properties almost always have availability, while other properties apparently never have.
3) Points are normally deducted at time of booking; cash portion is paid to the hotel at checkout.
4) If you cancel the reservation online, the points are usually but not always automatically re-credited; may be necessary to call/contact.
5) Only available for standard rooms, not for higher room categories, Club floor rooms, etc.
6) All elite tier benefits apply, and Diamond suite upgrades may be applied if available.
7) Stay and night credits are applicable for elite qualification and also for promotions; cash portion earns points as qualified hotel spend.
8) For non-US properties, the US dollar co-pay may be converted to the foreign currency at the time the reservation is made. Sometimes the conversion rate is set for the whole year, so may be more or less than the current exchange rate.
9) The cash co-pay is inclusive of taxes and "service" charges for properties that quote their rates as inclusive of T&S. If rates do not normally include T&S, the cash portion is subject to the T&S charges.
Cat 1 2,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 2 4,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 3 6,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 4 7,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 5 10,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 6 12,500 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 7 15,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
Cat 8 20,000 points (modified depending on peak/off-peak pricing) + 50% of Standard Rate
1) As of November 2015, these rates can be booked online. In some cases, using a corporate code may cause them not to be shown.
2) Availability is determined by the property; some properties almost always have availability, while other properties apparently never have.
3) Points are normally deducted at time of booking; cash portion is paid to the hotel at checkout.
4) If you cancel the reservation online, the points are usually but not always automatically re-credited; may be necessary to call/contact.
5) Only available for standard rooms, not for higher room categories, Club floor rooms, etc.
6) All elite tier benefits apply, and Diamond suite upgrades may be applied if available.
7) Stay and night credits are applicable for elite qualification and also for promotions; cash portion earns points as qualified hotel spend.
8) For non-US properties, the US dollar co-pay may be converted to the foreign currency at the time the reservation is made. Sometimes the conversion rate is set for the whole year, so may be more or less than the current exchange rate.
9) The cash co-pay is inclusive of taxes and "service" charges for properties that quote their rates as inclusive of T&S. If rates do not normally include T&S, the cash portion is subject to the T&S charges.
Points & Cash - MASTER THREAD
Jan 8, 2014, 1:00 pm
#16
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I made a C+P booking at a European hotel yesterday. The cash portion for the category 6 hotel was quoted in euros, with the exchange rate valid as of yesterday.
111.00 per Night/per Room
227.20 EUR Total Per Room
Evidently, there is an additional fee in the second line for the 2 night stay. I'll be curious to see if the rate remains fixed at the 111 euros even if the currency exchange has moved on the day of my actual stay.
I really like the benefits that others have listed:
- stay credit
- ability to use suite upgrade
111.00 per Night/per Room
227.20 EUR Total Per Room
Evidently, there is an additional fee in the second line for the 2 night stay. I'll be curious to see if the rate remains fixed at the 111 euros even if the currency exchange has moved on the day of my actual stay.
I really like the benefits that others have listed:
- stay credit
- ability to use suite upgrade
Jan 8, 2014, 3:25 pm
#18
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,131
I hope to make point/cash reservations in one of those nice Cat 6/7 properties this year.
But in the mean time I converted two of my upcoming stays, changed a Cat 2 from all points, and changed a Cat 1 from all cash
Hyatt will get slightly higher cash revs from me, and I'll get an extra stay/night credit and make it up to 5 nights during the current bonus
But in the mean time I converted two of my upcoming stays, changed a Cat 2 from all points, and changed a Cat 1 from all cash
Hyatt will get slightly higher cash revs from me, and I'll get an extra stay/night credit and make it up to 5 nights during the current bonus
Jan 8, 2014, 9:43 pm
#20
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Osaka
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, UA
Posts: 3,158
Unfortunately in my case it seems like tax is added onto the cash portion of the C&P rate as with any other cash only stay. For my stay at the Hyatt Regency Tokyo it says on my reservation:
Nightly Rate per Room:
7,702.00 JAPANESE YEN
Type of Rate: POINTS PLUS CASH
Rate Information: HYATT GOLD PASSPORT POINTS PLUS CASH AWARD - Standard guarantee/cancel policy applies.
CANCELLATION POLICY:
CANCEL BY 2PM 24 HOURS PRIOR TO ARRIVAL
Additional Tax & Service Charges
5.50% tax + 10.00% Service Charge
Other Charges 200JPY OCC TAX PER PERSON PER NIGHT
Nightly Rate per Room:
7,702.00 JAPANESE YEN
Type of Rate: POINTS PLUS CASH
Rate Information: HYATT GOLD PASSPORT POINTS PLUS CASH AWARD - Standard guarantee/cancel policy applies.
CANCELLATION POLICY:
CANCEL BY 2PM 24 HOURS PRIOR TO ARRIVAL
Additional Tax & Service Charges
5.50% tax + 10.00% Service Charge
Other Charges 200JPY OCC TAX PER PERSON PER NIGHT
Bad news for US and Tokyo properties, good news for Europe, Kyoto, etc.
Jan 9, 2014, 10:40 am
#23
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Alki. Seattle, WA
Programs: WN~A List Pref, CP, Hyatt-Diamond, Hilton Diamond, ANT~a Dave Matthews Addiction thing
Posts: 723
I know no one likes devaluation of points or programs, but this new add on, especially for Diamond seems great......a very nice perk. Yes or no?
Jan 9, 2014, 10:57 am
#24
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SAN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, American Air, National Car
Posts: 1,131
Jan 9, 2014, 8:35 pm
#25
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CVG
Programs: Hyatt Giraffe
Posts: 1,664
I think Hyatt knows what they're doing with C&P. Pre-deval, I blew about 1 million GHP. Post deval, I switched a few weeks to C&P and they're going to see a few thousand in revenue from me AND now I have 200k points back and looking to give them more money to use up those points instead of holding.
Hook, line, and sinker...
Hook, line, and sinker...
Jan 10, 2014, 9:35 am
#26
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Seat 2A
Programs: AA EXP LT GLD 1MM, BA GLD, NH/UA*G, Hyatt Dia, Marr Tit LT PLT, IHG Spire,HH Dia, MGM NOIR,Hertz PC
Posts: 10,571
I think Hyatt knows what they're doing with C&P. Pre-deval, I blew about 1 million GHP. Post deval, I switched a few weeks to C&P and they're going to see a few thousand in revenue from me AND now I have 200k points back and looking to give them more money to use up those points instead of holding.
Hook, line, and sinker...
Hook, line, and sinker...
If it doesn't make any economical sense then we won't do it. Which means the Cat 7 properties are nonsense. Even the Cat 6 where a decent corporate rate should get you close to the cash amount sans points.
Jan 10, 2014, 12:49 pm
#28
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Danville, CA, USA;
Programs: UA 1MM, WN CP, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Gold, IC Plat
Posts: 15,720
Just changed my rez for the Andaz5th in New York from points to P+C and added a suite upgrade. Sweet! 
Surprised to find no P+C inventory for HR Maui several months out, but maybe that will change. Room rate is low which suggests demand is also low.
Surprised to find no P+C inventory for HR Maui several months out, but maybe that will change. Room rate is low which suggests demand is also low.
Jan 10, 2014, 3:05 pm
#29
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Seat 2A
Programs: AA EXP LT GLD 1MM, BA GLD, NH/UA*G, Hyatt Dia, Marr Tit LT PLT, IHG Spire,HH Dia, MGM NOIR,Hertz PC
Posts: 10,571
Made a C&P Res for the Hyatt Regency Tokyo.
So far so good, but the first suite upgrade for the HR is available mid march. Crazy! But it will be alright, before and after I'm at the PHT.
So far so good, but the first suite upgrade for the HR is available mid march. Crazy! But it will be alright, before and after I'm at the PHT.
