HkCaGu

I can't understand your logic, which will imply that any such dual Canadians or Americans or whatever cannot be serviced by the embassies and consulates just because they entered a second or third country as non Canadians or Americans or whatever? This would imply that they can't renew their passports or register to vote as overseas voters!

The Philippine government could say "they are not Canadians", but when the HK press reported their identities, and the Greater Toronto community became aware, and their Canadian identity became public, what can stop consular officials from assisting beside the local government and the victims themselves?

From what I've seen quoted on this thread and on GC's website, it only says "you can encounter difficulties", not "we can't help you".

How so? HKSAR holders are full PRC citizens. I can see how assistance and protection are different. Citizenship services may be different because they do not have mainland hukou and PRC agencies cannot directly issue them documents.

Clipper801

Don't mix up Canadian citizens with American citizens. Each country "negotiates" it own Consular Agreement individually with each country that it establishes diplomatic relation. The treatment between Canadian and American citizens of Chinese origin whilst they are in China may be entirely different. I am not familiar with the Americans but based on information posted at the DFAIT web site, it is imperative that in order to be entitled to Canadian consular protection and assistance, they must enter China with their Canadian passports. If they do not, they forfeit such rights. It's the individual choice of the traveller. It's common knowledge that many folks use their HRP card to visit China in order to save a few $$ on visa fee, this is their choice and we need to respect that. However, the downside is that in case of an emergency, they will not have access to Canadian consular services. As far as the Consular Agreement between Canada and the Phillippines, I do not know the detail. However, at the DFAIT web site, it is clearly pointed out if a Canadian uses a travel document other than a Canadian passport to enter a third country, Canadian consular protection and assistance whilst in that third country may be problematic and Canadians are urged to enquire in advance of their trip with the diplomatic representatives of the countries intending to visit.

tentseller

No logic, just what happens in the real world when S**t happens and you need major help.

You will be surprise at the difference between Real PRC citizens and PRC citizens of HK.

There is no need for logical debates, this is what happens in the real world. I had many experience that I can tell you but I will have to kill you.

CAPTVOY

I too agree that if you are Canadian and you enter a country with ur HKSAR passport, you do not get consular assistance from Canada but that of HK.

It's the legal position, when you enter a country you present proof to that country you are a national of somewhere, it's designed that if something does happen, their immigration dept can locate ur file and contact the country that you are a national of. In a crisis, you can't pick and choose which national you are just because u have dual citizenship.

dtsm

Final update from OP.

Just flew into HK last night. Got stamps courtesy of Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia - went through immigration each time without any problems. My HK passport will now be 'retired', except for when visiting Jakarta again [avoid VOA for US passport].

Thanks for everyone's earlier help.

ptpinit

Reading this post has made me reconsider my previous strategy. I am dual citizen and passport holder of the US and Thailand. I have never used my Thai passport. However, we are traveling to Brazil next May, and that country allows Thai nationals in without a visa. Does that mean I would only have protection/services of the Thai consulate, if something were to go awry? Or should I pony up the extra ~ $200 to obtain a 10-year US visa?

I think I would check in with United in PDX using my Thai passport, correct? I had planned on entering/departing Brazil on the Thai passport, then and re-entering the US on my US passport.

Thanks for your insights.

dtsm

Yes

tentseller

The standard decision for me and my team members are:

PhlyingRPh

Re/ Malaysia
I am constantly being told that I should not travel to Malaysia with more than one country's passport in my possession, but in a dozen or more entries to the country this year, I can't say that I've ever exchanged a word with entry or departure immigration officers beyond Hello and Thank you, let alone be asked whether or not I have a second passport.

Rejuvenated

I have a HK Permanent ID Card as well as a US passport and a Canadian Passport. I have always used my US passport when entering or transiting via the US and use my Canadian Passport when re-entering Canada. I have always used my HKPIC when entering the SAR and have never attempted using neither my US nor Canadian passport. I am thankful that being HK-born thus in possesion of a HKPIC myself, I do not have to endure those extensive waits at the visitor queue at HKIA whenever I fly back to the SAR.

dsgtc0408

I wish I had a HKPIC so I could live in Hong Kong permanently, but for the purpose of going through passport control at HKG, I have the handy HK Immigration barcode on the back of my US passport that lets me use the electronic gates that HKPIC holders use - great for beating those queues.

Letitride3c

That's fine & good if you have carryons only and skipping the wait for luggage at the carousel. Otherwise, even if yours are tagged priority ir or special handling being F or B/J class, etc. - there's still a wait (besides, I believe they must allow time to let the Customs 4 legged patrol do a sweep first while it's coming off the plane)

rkkwan

Luggage off HKG is usually faster than going through the immigration lines for non-residents. With one exception since Cheklapkok opened I have always claimed my checked bags (priority or otherwise) and got on my way before most passengers (i.e. visitors) can get through to baggage claim.

Rejuvenated

We've witnessed this as well. Quite often we would see our fellow cabin pax queue at the visitors line but by the time we were done getting all our luggages, they still have not reached the carousel.

kaka

just to make sure you dont sit on row 6X-7X in whY/last few rows of plane?

i usually sit on row 3X (first rows in whY) and usually have a short wait if my bags arent priority tagged.