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Kiwi Flyer Feb 12, 2004 1:50 pm

[ARCHIVE] Hilton Family MVP Rate - 2016 through 2019
 
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Watchful Jan 8, 2016 2:37 pm

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alexj7 Jan 10, 2016 1:37 pm

Has anyone seen this before where the MVP rate causes a 90 day cancellation policy? Happened to me at the Doubletree Times Square. Never heard of this before so it just screwed me over and no one will cancel it for me. I booked only 2 weeks out so it was effectively a non-refundable reservation.

I'm used the the Hilton website making it very clear when it is non refundable. Unfortuntaly this was only clear if I read the cancellation policy. I've booked hundreds of times so I don't read that stuff closely anymore.


edit: Looks like it is just a hotel policy. What the hell? Is there no brand standard here? If I book through hilton.com I expect normal policies and that includes easy cancellation unless it clearly says advance purchase.

nk15 Jan 10, 2016 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by alexj7 (Post 25995513)
Has anyone seen this before where the MVP rate causes a 90 day cancellation policy? Happened to me at the Doubletree Times Square. Never heard of this before so it just screwed me over and no one will cancel it for me. I booked only 2 weeks out so it was effectively a non-refundable reservation.

I'm used the the Hilton website making it very clear when it is non refundable. Unfortuntaly this was only clear if I read the cancellation policy. I've booked hundreds of times so I don't read that stuff closely anymore.


edit: Looks like it is just a hotel policy. What the hell? Is there no brand standard here? If I book through hilton.com I expect normal policies and that includes easy cancellation unless it clearly says advance purchase.

This property seem to have earlier cancellation policies in general. In another booking of mine the cancellation policy is at least 72 hours before arrival.

Similar early cancellation deadlines I have seen at the newest HGI in NYC.

90 days sounds crazy though.

SFO 1K Jan 10, 2016 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by alexj7 (Post 25995513)
Has anyone seen this before where the MVP rate causes a 90 day cancellation policy? Happened to me at the Doubletree Times Square. Never heard of this before so it just screwed me over and no one will cancel it for me. I booked only 2 weeks out so it was effectively a non-refundable reservation.

Depending on your situation, I have found a sympathetic front desk agent able to assist with this scenario at that hotel. I accidentally entered the wrong dates and called the hotel to have them adjust the dates and stated up front I knew I had a 90 day policy on it and they changed the reservation on their end. (I called at 3am hotel time, too, btw).

Good luck.

Miesque Jan 10, 2016 5:17 pm


Originally Posted by alexj7 (Post 25995513)
Has anyone seen this before where the MVP rate causes a 90 day cancellation policy? Happened to me at the Doubletree Times Square. Never heard of this before so it just screwed me over and no one will cancel it for me. I booked only 2 weeks out so it was effectively a non-refundable reservation.

I'm used the the Hilton website making it very clear when it is non refundable. Unfortuntaly this was only clear if I read the cancellation policy. I've booked hundreds of times so I don't read that stuff closely anymore.


edit: Looks like it is just a hotel policy. What the hell? Is there no brand standard here? If I book through hilton.com I expect normal policies and that includes easy cancellation unless it clearly says advance purchase.

I ran into that nonsense with that exact same hotel with MVP. I was eventually able to cancel but only after I complained on TripAdvisor (I was so pissed off I was motivated to complain there as a first time poster since complaining and at Diamond Desk was unsuccessful). I also made the reservation within the 90 days and there was no warning I was do so and three weeks out to the reservation I tried to cancel and it took a week to finally get it cancelled. Ever since I have been paying a lot closer attention to cancellation periods.

cblaisd Jan 10, 2016 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by alexj7 (Post 25995513)
...so I don't read that stuff closely anymore.

I think there's your answer.

Eujeanie Jan 10, 2016 7:37 pm

Really, 90 days just does not seem normal for it not being NYE, Super Bowl, etc. I wonder if that was leftover language from NYE? And most times when it is non-refundable there will be prominent language on the booking page to that effect, that the time for cancellation is past, etc. I went and looked and you do have to scroll down and read the cancellation policy. Yes, we should all read it every single time, but this didn't seem very obvious to me, but thanks for the wake-up call to start doing it in the future.

storewanderer Jan 10, 2016 10:15 pm

Did you cancel within 24 hours of the original booking?

Isn't there some sort of law about providing a refund if a non refundable booking is canceled within 24 hours of the purchase? I think the airlines honor this rule and also Marriott seems to on its advance purchase rates...

Good reminder to all of us to check the cancellation policy but it seems unreasonable and seems like something they should be able to help you out with.

docbert Jan 10, 2016 11:21 pm


Originally Posted by storewanderer (Post 25997414)
Isn't there some sort of law about providing a refund if a non refundable booking is canceled within 24 hours of the purchase? I think the airlines honor this rule and also Marriott seems to on its advance purchase rates...

This is a DOT rule, and is only a requirement for airlines (and even then not in all cases).

Kudos to Marriott for having something similar, but there's no legal requirement for them to do so.

alexj7 Jan 11, 2016 5:50 am

I booked it a few days ago anyway.

I'm going to try again today now that it is a weekday. May have more luck with management.

alexj7 Jan 11, 2016 11:35 am

Spent like 30 minutes on the phone and they still wouldn't cancel it. Though I think the phone routes you through corporate and they just call the hotel. They said the manager there refused.

PayItForward Jan 11, 2016 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by alexj7 (Post 26000390)
Spent like 30 minutes on the phone and they still wouldn't cancel it. Though I think the phone routes you through corporate and they just call the hotel. They said the manager there refused.

Unfortunately, it is their right not to allow cancellation in accordance to the terms you agreed during booking. Also, rather than outright cancel, consider asking if they would allow changes to the reservations instead e.g travel at a later time. Regardless the outcome, I think most of us here have learnt a lesson. Do not assume the terms are the same. We kind of know it in the back of our heads but sometimes we just get "lazy".

Miesque Jan 12, 2016 9:24 am

After having wasted many days on attempting to get a cancellation for that hotel a few months ago, the impact has been that I don't even look at it as an option even it is priced competitively in a search so they have lost a few potential stays by me.

Eujeanie Jan 12, 2016 10:10 am

A 90 day cancel policy for a non-holiday, non-special event stay is absurd, whether you were informed about it or not.


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