Go Back   FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Hotels and Loyalty Programs > Hilton | Hilton HHonors
Sign in using an external account

    Hide Wikipost
Old May 26, 14, 2:58 pm   -   Wikipost
FlyerTalk Forums Thread Wiki: The Hilton HHonors® Surpass(SM) Card from American Express
Please read: this is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread.
 
Last edit by: jmd001
Wikipost instructions: signed in members can edit this Wikipost, and minimize or maximize Wikiposts by clicking on [-] or [+] box upper right of post.

Hilton HHonorsTM Surpass® Card from American Express

$75 annual fee.

Basic benefits (note points earning changes since original post):

- Earn 12 HHonors points per dollar spent at participating Hilton properties
- Earn 6 HHonors points per dollar spent at restaurants, supermarkets, and stand-alone gas stations (i.e, NOT Costco) [Home telephone, wireless, cable, satellite TV, internet service providers, and drug stores recently dropped from this category. Restaurants added.]
- Earn 3 HHonors points per dollar spent elsewhere

- Earn 500 bonus points for every Hilton website booking
-HHonors Gold VIP status complimentary for as long as you hold the card [Former $20,000 annual spend requirement recently dropped, presumably to match benefit of Citi HHonors card]
-HHonors Diamond VIP status when your total eligible spend reaches $40,000 annually
-Basic level Priority Pass (usually $99 separately; $27 per person per visit)
-Accidental damage protection for 90 days for purchases made with card
-Extended warranty up to one year on purchases made with card
-Eligible item return guarantee for purchases – limit $300 per item, $1,000 per year – if returned within 90 days; will not pay for return shipping and handling
-Primary auto insurance (but be sure to read limitations and exceptions)

Benefit terms and conditions

Customer Service 24 / 7 1.800.327.2177; overseas call collect +1.336.393.1111. Card replacement 24 / 7 is 1.800.528.4800 or call collect overseas +1.336.393.1111.

Application / information page (but read this thread for bonuses, and changes to terms above - please edit those in. N.B. This is NOT a referral link.)

Print Wikipost

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Feb 3, 09, 8:38 am   #1
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BOS/PVD/BDL
Programs: PC Plat, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz 5*, National Emerald Exec., Avis First
Posts: 577
The Hilton HHonors® Surpass(SM) Card from American Express

Saw this link at the bottom of my online account (click upgrade for more under ways to earn) and did a search and cannot find any information posted on this card. It looks like something being offered to current card holders because I could not find it on their public website.
If this has been posted please delete the post.


Benefits of the Card:

-Up to 40,000 Hilton HHonors® bonus points with first purchase (1) — enough for up to five free nights (2)
-Up to 20,000 HHonors bonus points with first eight Hilton Family stays charged to the Card during your first 18 months of Cardmembership (3)
-HHonors Gold VIP status complimentary with your first year; to maintain thereafter, total eligible spend must reach $20,000 annually (4)
-HHonors Diamond VIP status when your total eligible spend reaches $40,000 annually (5)
-$75/year annual fee
-9 HHonors bonus points for every eligible dollar spent at participating Hilton Family hotels (6)
-6 HHonors bonus points for every eligible dollar spent at gas stations, drugstores, and more (7)
-3 HHonors bonus points for virtually every dollar spent elsewhere
-500 HHonors bonus points when you book online at any Hilton Family Hotel Website using your Card (8)



Terms and Conditions.......
1) To earn up to 40,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points, you must make your first eligible purchase with the Hilton HHonors Card within one year of Card issuance. Only one first-purchase bonus per Card account. Only first-time Hilton HHonors Cardmembers will earn up to 40,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points. Cardmembers who have previously earned a first-purchase bonus from any Hilton HHonors Card from American Express earn the incremental difference of up to 40,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points.

(2) Hilton HHonors bonus points required for a free night range between 7,500 HHonors bonus points for an Opportunity Category hotel and 40,000 HHonors bonus points for a Category 6 hotel. 10,000 HHonors bonus points are enough for a free reward night at an Opportunity Category or a Category 1 hotel. For information on reward stays, visit hiltonhhonors.com/hhonorsrewards.

(3) In your first 18 months of Cardmembership, earn 2,500 HHonors bonus points for each of your first eight stays at Hilton Family hotels when you charge $100 or more to your Hilton HHonors Surpass Card for each of those eight stays.

(4) If in any calendar year of Cardmembership your total eligible spend reaches $20,000, you will be upgraded to Hilton HHonors Gold VIP tier status for a one-year period. Allow 10–12 weeks for VIP status to be upgraded.

(5) If in any calendar year of Cardmembership your total eligible spend reaches $40,000, you will be upgraded to Hilton HHonors Diamond VIP tier status for a one-year period. Allow 10–12 weeks for VIP status to be upgraded.

(6) You will receive 9 Hilton HHonors bonus points for each U.S. dollar of eligible spending on the Card at any Hilton Family hotel worldwide (excluding Hilton Grand Vacations timeshare purchases and package sales). To receive the appropriate bonus points, the merchants must submit the charge using the appropriate industry code, merchant code, or products/service code established by us. If the merchant submits a Charge using a different code, the applicable Charge will only receive the bonus points corresponding to that code. Merchants with multiple locations may submit Charges at different locations using different codes. This means that Charges at some locations will qualify for additional bonus points, but Charges at other locations of the same merchant will not. Eligible Spending includes purchases of goods or services, which purchases have not been returned or otherwise rescinded and are not subject to a credit. You will not receive Hilton HHonors bonus points for balances transferred from other accounts, purchases of American Express® Travelers Cheques or American Express® Gift Cheques, fees, Finance Charges, or Cash Advances and similar means of assessing your Card Account. Additional terms and conditions apply.

(7) You will receive 6 Hilton HHonors bonus points for each U.S. dollar of eligible spending at the following categories of merchants, excluding warehouse clubs and superstores: supermarkets; drug stores; stand-alone gas stations; and home telephone, wireless, cable, satellite TV, and internet service providers. To receive the appropriate bonus points, the merchants must submit the charge using the appropriate industry code, merchant code, or products/service code established by us. If the merchant submits a Charge using a different code, the applicable Charge will only receive the bonus points corresponding to that code. Merchants with multiple locations may submit Charges at different locations using different codes. This means that Charges at some locations will qualify for additional bonus points, but Charges at other locations of the same merchant will not. Eligible Spending includes purchases of goods or services, which purchases have not been returned or otherwise rescinded and are not subject to a credit. You will not receive Hilton HHonors bonus points for balances transferred from other accounts, purchases of American Express® Travelers Cheques or American Express® Gift Cheques, fees, Finance Charges, or Cash Advances and similar means of assessing your Card Account. Additional terms and conditions apply.

(8) You will receive 500 Hilton HHonors bonus points for each qualifying stay at a participating Hilton Family hotel when the stay is booked online at any Hilton Family hotel website and paid for with the Card.

Last edited by ktremor; Mar 20, 09 at 10:40 am..
ktremor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 8:53 am   #2
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: QDF
Programs: AA PLT (2MM)
Posts: 669
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktremor View Post
-HHonors Diamond VIP status when your total eligible spend reaches $40,000 annually (5)
The shark has officially been jumped.
__________________
I have opinions; deal with it.
PlatinumScum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 8:55 am   #3
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Diego
Programs: IC Platinum Ambassador, UA Mileage Plus, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 853
Big Changes today

not happy,
sdcarver

Last edited by sdcarver; Feb 3, 09 at 9:03 am..
sdcarver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 8:56 am   #4
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 405
And still nothing for the restaurant at $75 a pop!
mommafrica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 8:58 am   #5
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Diego
Programs: IC Platinum Ambassador, UA Mileage Plus, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 853
from looking at the AMEX website I do not see the references to minimum spending to achieve either gold or diamond which make me think they will have two levels if the Hilton AMEX.

http://www201.americanexpress.com/ge...Hilton-HHonors

sdcarver
sdcarver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 9:00 am   #6
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 405
Not even a "1st yr free fee" to this promo!
mommafrica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 9:08 am   #7
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PHL
Programs: HH Diamond, UA 2P, US Dirt (Yay!)
Posts: 339
I don't travel much nowadays so the 9 bonus points for hotels doesn't matter much to me. It looks like that and the $40k for Diamond threshhold are the only differences compared to the regular card. For $75/year it isnt' worth it for me.

Hate the change in the AXON reward for Cat5 vs 6...
jhpark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 9:22 am   #8
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: hilton-Diamond, ba, Cunard-Platinum
Posts: 204
If I read it correctly, the AXON awards are broken up in 2 categories. Level 5 and level 6 hotels. For 120K, as before, you get 4 nights at a cat. 5 hotel. But it now takes 140k to get 4 nights in a cat. 6 hotel.
Artie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 9:30 am   #9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 11,883
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktremor View Post
(3) In your first 18 months of Cardmembership, earn 2,500 HHonors bonus points for each of your first eight stays at Hilton Family hotels when you charge $100 or more to your Hilton HHonors Surpass Card for each of those eight stays.
On the 62,500 offer there is definitely no $100 requirement for the 2500 bonus (though it only applies for the first 4, not first 8, stays), as I earned it on one-night Hampton stays that were $90ish all-in at most.
sdsearch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 9:56 am   #10
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BOS/PVD/BDL
Programs: PC Plat, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz 5*, National Emerald Exec., Avis First
Posts: 577
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdsearch View Post
On the 62,500 offer there is definitely no $100 requirement for the 2500 bonus (though it only applies for the first 4, not first 8, stays), as I earned it on one-night Hampton stays that were $90ish all-in at most.
I even earned the points on reward stays where I used my Hhonors Amex as the credit card on file and did not spend anything else at the hotel.




There have been a couple of people that have asked me to post the link to this card. I tried to initally post it in my original post by taking out my account info, but the website the link takes me to is a secure upgrade application.
ktremor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 10:01 am   #11
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SXB
Programs: Flying Beurk Silver, BD Gold, BA Gold, A3 Gold, A-club Platinum, Hyatt DIA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,470
Ouch. Everybody iin the US and his dog will be diamond now... It used not to matter apparently at US properties, but I fear it will be the end of Diamond recognition elsewhere.
Richelieu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 10:17 am   #12
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Programs: WN AL+/CP, IHG AMB/Plat, HH Gold, UA Dirt
Posts: 34,119
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richelieu View Post
Ouch. Everybody iin the US and his dog will be diamond now... It used not to matter apparently at US properties, but I fear it will be the end of Diamond recognition elsewhere.
In this economic climate I doubt we'll see massive additions to the Diamond rolls. A lot of business spending is getting cut back.

Also, other than the up-front bonuses, I'm not sure the annual fee is worth it unless you know you can run up $40K and want Diamond (and don't think you can get it the old fashioned way). Getting 6/$1 and requiring $20K for Gold, and that being a free credit card looks to be the better bargain.
uastarflyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 10:52 am   #13
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: San Diego
Programs: IC Platinum Ambassador, UA Mileage Plus, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 853
Quote:
Originally Posted by uastarflyer View Post
In this economic climate I doubt we'll see massive additions to the Diamond rolls. A lot of business spending is getting cut back.

Also, other than the up-front bonuses, I'm not sure the annual fee is worth it unless you know you can run up $40K and want Diamond (and don't think you can get it the old fashioned way). Getting 6/$1 and requiring $20K for Gold, and that being a free credit card looks to be the better bargain.
In this link I did not see any reference for the 20,000 spending to get Gold Status at Hilton

http://www201.americanexpress.com/ge...Hilton-HHonors

So does that mean you may only qualify for Gold on spending with the Surpass Card?

sdcarver
sdcarver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 11:00 am   #14
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Baltimore USA / Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: LH Sen, BA Silver, SWA A+, *W Plat, HH Gold, HY Plat, PC Plat Amb, CC Gold, MR Gold, AMEX Plat
Posts: 2,402
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdcarver View Post
In this link I did not see any reference for the 20,000 spending to get Gold Status at Hilton

http://www201.americanexpress.com/ge...Hilton-HHonors
Did you scroll down the page? It's definitely there that you get Gold with the $20k spend. There's a section labeled "Explore the full range of benefits below" and then it is listed under the "Rewards" tab.

This page even lists and shows a pic of the Hilton HH Surpas Card under the hotel rewards cards but it offers not details.

http://www201.americanexpress.com/ap...&showHtml=true

I know there have been treads in the past comparing diamond to gold and I thought the overall consensus was that it really wasn't a big difference unless you travel frequently outside of the US.

Last edited by christianj; Feb 3, 09 at 11:07 am..
christianj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 3, 09, 12:55 pm   #15
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland, California, USA
Programs: UA 1K, AA Exec Plat, SPG Plat, HH Diamond, Hyatt Plat, Marriott Gold, PC Plat Amb, Fairmont Premier
Posts: 8,106
Quote:
Originally Posted by ktremor View Post
1) To earn up to 40,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points, you must make your first eligible purchase with the Hilton HHonors Card within one year of Card issuance. Only one first-purchase bonus per Card account. Only first-time Hilton HHonors Cardmembers will earn up to 40,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points. Cardmembers who have previously earned a first-purchase bonus from any Hilton HHonors Card from American Express earn the incremental difference of up to 40,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points.
Just called the Hilton Amex line and the CSR couldn't fine any info beyond apparently the same page that christianj found, where the additional info about the Surpass card is limited to some limited info about getting another person to use your card. She said she'd actually call back if she learns more info--I'll post if I learn more.

If I understand the above quote correctly, it looks like (assuming Amex actually makes this card available under these terms) if I earned 10,000 points for my original sign-up for my HH Amex card I can still earn 30,000 bonus points at the cost of $75 for upgrading the card. Does that sound righ?
Thunderroad is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:42 am.




SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.