Last edit by: Hilton Honors Ambassador
Posted by HHonorsRepresentative:
We're winding down for the Thanksgiving holiday and, as a heads up, I will be out of the office until Monday, but I wanted to let you know about our status match program...
We've been receiving a number of requests and yes, we do match status from other programs and we'd love to be your travel home.
We are matching status for 2016. To make sure you're all set for the year, please submit your request by January 11, 2016. You'll enjoy that status through March 2017.
All you need is something that shows your elite tier in another program and an HHonors number.
Email us at [email protected] and we'll help get you started.
Please note it may take a couple of days to process given the Thanksgiving holiday. We promise to process requests as quickly as possible and any request submitted prior to January 11, 2016, will be processed in time to enjoy your new status for the entire year.
Updated 12/18/15:
For anyone who is still interested in status matching to HHonors, we have created a site for registration:
HHonor My Status
Feel free to use this site in lieu of submitting an email.
Remember you have until January 11, 2016 - so act now!
We're winding down for the Thanksgiving holiday and, as a heads up, I will be out of the office until Monday, but I wanted to let you know about our status match program...
We've been receiving a number of requests and yes, we do match status from other programs and we'd love to be your travel home.
We are matching status for 2016. To make sure you're all set for the year, please submit your request by January 11, 2016. You'll enjoy that status through March 2017.
All you need is something that shows your elite tier in another program and an HHonors number.
Email us at [email protected] and we'll help get you started.
Please note it may take a couple of days to process given the Thanksgiving holiday. We promise to process requests as quickly as possible and any request submitted prior to January 11, 2016, will be processed in time to enjoy your new status for the entire year.
Updated 12/18/15:
For anyone who is still interested in status matching to HHonors, we have created a site for registration:
HHonor My Status
Feel free to use this site in lieu of submitting an email.
Remember you have until January 11, 2016 - so act now!
Starwood + Marriott: How Will Hilton Respond? Elite Status Matches?
#16
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Marriott's most profitable chain is Courtyard by Marriott, not any of their luxury or FS brands. As mentioned the limited service chains tend to bring in more money on the whole.
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Honestly this might put pressure on Hyatt and Hilton to merge. Hyatt is staring to grow its select-service chain with Hyatt Place but are they growing in that area fast enough? Hilton has the low-mid end covered very well, some high end brands but really not enough now to compete against a Marriott/SPG combination. I could see this leading to talks between Hyatt and Hilton resulting in the following brand mapping.
Park Hyatt - Waldorf-Astoria
Andaz - Canopy
Grand Hyatt - Mixture of Hilton and Conrad
Hyatt Regency - Hilton
Hyatt - Hilton
Hyatt Centric - Mix of Hilton and Doubletree
Hyatt Place - Hilton Garden Inn
Hyatt House - Either Home2Suites or Homewood Suites
Hyatt Zilara and Hyatt Ziva - Hilton All Inclusive Resorts (or Curio Collection)
Hyatt Residence Club - Hilton Grand Vacations
Park Hyatt - Waldorf-Astoria
Andaz - Canopy
Grand Hyatt - Mixture of Hilton and Conrad
Hyatt Regency - Hilton
Hyatt - Hilton
Hyatt Centric - Mix of Hilton and Doubletree
Hyatt Place - Hilton Garden Inn
Hyatt House - Either Home2Suites or Homewood Suites
Hyatt Zilara and Hyatt Ziva - Hilton All Inclusive Resorts (or Curio Collection)
Hyatt Residence Club - Hilton Grand Vacations
I'd be happy to see Doubletree and the baseline Hyatt brands disappear, and those properties brought up to at least the basic Hilton level. Hyatt aficionados insist that Hyatt is a premium brand, so perhaps it lives on with the Parks and Grands. Park Hyatt has a very different vibe than Waldorf so those seem like they can co-exist fine.
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That's not going to happen. The Pritzkers own 75% of the voting stock in Hyatt and Tom and Gigi look like they're willing to acquire but not be acquired. That being the case, Hilton would be too expensive for them to finance.
Tom and Gigi are both multi billionaires so I don't think that Hilton could write a check big enough to interest them in selling but I've been wrong before.
Tom and Gigi are both multi billionaires so I don't think that Hilton could write a check big enough to interest them in selling but I've been wrong before.
#20
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But if the Marriott/Starwood merger actually gives the new Marriott a strategic advantage that affects Hyatt's profits/growth strategies, then their minds might change.
#21
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We all have our different ideas on what the loyalty program "golden era" was - for hotels, I think of the 2000-2001 range when several big programs were up and running and they were all very lucrative for frequent travelers - but I think we can all agree that it's in the past.
Service, OTOH, might actually get better in some areas. Hilton is now looking at a huge competitor with a ton of advantages that it doesn't have. I'm not sure what they'll try, but they have to try something.
That's not going to happen. The Pritzkers own 75% of the voting stock in Hyatt and Tom and Gigi look like they're willing to acquire but not be acquired. That being the case, Hilton would be too expensive for them to finance.
Tom and Gigi are both multi billionaires so I don't think that Hilton could write a check big enough to interest them in selling but I've been wrong before.
Tom and Gigi are both multi billionaires so I don't think that Hilton could write a check big enough to interest them in selling but I've been wrong before.
#22
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Isn't "willingness to be acquired" simply a function of the offer price, the current stock price, and the projected earnings and capital growth of the company going forward? The problem with 1 voter (or is it 2 voters?) controlling 75% of the votes is that your price has to fit *their* forecast model as opposed the forecast model of a bunch of institutional investors, which would likely normalize around a common and reasonably agreeable price.
Tom Pritzker is a multibillionaire who, by all external appearances, wants to run a hotel chain. Many of his siblings and cousins are selling their Hyatt holdings (the last of family sales will be done by the end of this year) and he and his sister Gigi have been buying family Hyatt stock over the years. If Tom and Gigi were interested in selling their Hyatt holdings, one would think that they would have done so by now. But it's hard to point to money being a motivating factor for them - how many billions does one need in life?
If Hilton's looking at acquiring additional properties, there are other hotel chains that could be bought for much more reasonable prices.
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Okay, I'm just gonna put it out there....
Hilton should buy ACCOR hotels. It would finally give them a respectable presence in Europe (France particularly), overseas tax shelter if they move the headquarters, and most importantly, anyone that's ever been part of the horrible ACCOR loyalty program (Le Club), would welcome the program change.
Vive la Hilton!
Hilton should buy ACCOR hotels. It would finally give them a respectable presence in Europe (France particularly), overseas tax shelter if they move the headquarters, and most importantly, anyone that's ever been part of the horrible ACCOR loyalty program (Le Club), would welcome the program change.
Vive la Hilton!
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Good one alchemista. I am hoping Blackstone sells Hilton to Hyatt so then HHonors can be merged into Gold Passport and gone forever or at least my lifetime.
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Hilton will probably respond by reducing their Internet speeds, so that they can further differentiate themselves with that service
#26
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I think you're right on benefits, although not necessarily because of this merger. I think we're seeing it across the travel industry: airlines and hotels are gradually winding down their emphasis on loyalty programs and moving more to a model where paid premium customers get the benefits. They've figured out that yield is more important than frequency, and they've also figured out that loyalty programs aren't the differentiator that they once were.
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I think those forces could lead to innovations at the hotels - things we'd consider new or better services - but I still think the major brands are all slowly stepping away from the emphasis on loyalty programs and - more importantly - the emphasis on elite status.
You're seeing it across EVERY hotel program. Everyone is gradually drawing down the benefits they provide to their Gold/Plat type guests. They were doing it in the softer global economy of 2008-2010. They're still doing it during today's era of growth. It used to feel cyclical...they'd add and entice during softer periods. Now it seems like a straight line towards an end-goal of much less emphasis on elite status. Or, perhaps following the airlines' lead, revenue-based statuses.
You're seeing it across EVERY hotel program. Everyone is gradually drawing down the benefits they provide to their Gold/Plat type guests. They were doing it in the softer global economy of 2008-2010. They're still doing it during today's era of growth. It used to feel cyclical...they'd add and entice during softer periods. Now it seems like a straight line towards an end-goal of much less emphasis on elite status. Or, perhaps following the airlines' lead, revenue-based statuses.
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That's not going to happen. The Pritzkers own 75% of the voting stock in Hyatt and Tom and Gigi look like they're willing to acquire but not be acquired. That being the case, Hilton would be too expensive for them to finance.
Tom and Gigi are both multi billionaires so I don't think that Hilton could write a check big enough to interest them in selling but I've been wrong before.
Tom and Gigi are both multi billionaires so I don't think that Hilton could write a check big enough to interest them in selling but I've been wrong before.
It really depends on where the hotel market goes. Right now, my understanding is Hyatt is doing fairly well and the Pritzkers are more than satisfied with a more "organic" growth model.
But if the Marriott/Starwood merger actually gives the new Marriott a strategic advantage that affects Hyatt's profits/growth strategies, then their minds might change.
But if the Marriott/Starwood merger actually gives the new Marriott a strategic advantage that affects Hyatt's profits/growth strategies, then their minds might change.
Cheers. Sharon
#29
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Okay, I'm just gonna put it out there....
Hilton should buy ACCOR hotels. It would finally give them a respectable presence in Europe (France particularly), overseas tax shelter if they move the headquarters, and most importantly, anyone that's ever been part of the horrible ACCOR loyalty program (Le Club), would welcome the program change.
Vive la Hilton!
Hilton should buy ACCOR hotels. It would finally give them a respectable presence in Europe (France particularly), overseas tax shelter if they move the headquarters, and most importantly, anyone that's ever been part of the horrible ACCOR loyalty program (Le Club), would welcome the program change.
Vive la Hilton!
#30
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Posts: 7,761
Here's an idea: how about instead of going on an M&A binge and haphazardly gobbling up even more properties, Hilton steps back, sorts out its current portfolio, develops some actual brand identities aside from Hampton and HGI, and forces properties to conform with them? Ha ha ha. Ok, now that we've all had a good laugh, carry on...