Devaluing Gold - 2 Airline offers
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Eastern Europe
Programs: LH SEN LT , Hilton
Posts: 185
Devaluing Gold - 2 Airline offers
In the last few wks , both Turkish & now Eithad members can sign up for Gold Hilton without any minimum stays.
TK is fast growing with many airline members switching due to easier qualifying levels
As a loyal HH member since 2006 & now looking like I will just about cover Gold for next year dropping from Diamond it appears that Gold is being devalued.
On this basis HH should consider a higher level of Gold for members like us that spend our money on a regular basis & meet the yearly requirement.
Gold status will soon be overloaded so expect less upgrades etc if there is no extra level introduce where we will be recognize.
Thoughts anyone on starting a petition to Erin to propose this to management.
TK is fast growing with many airline members switching due to easier qualifying levels
As a loyal HH member since 2006 & now looking like I will just about cover Gold for next year dropping from Diamond it appears that Gold is being devalued.
On this basis HH should consider a higher level of Gold for members like us that spend our money on a regular basis & meet the yearly requirement.
Gold status will soon be overloaded so expect less upgrades etc if there is no extra level introduce where we will be recognize.
Thoughts anyone on starting a petition to Erin to propose this to management.
#2
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 17,008
In the last few wks , both Turkish & now Eithad members can sign up for Gold Hilton without any minimum stays.
TK is fast growing with many airline members switching due to easier qualifying levels
As a loyal HH member since 2006 & now looking like I will just about cover Gold for next year dropping from Diamond it appears that Gold is being devalued.
On this basis HH should consider a higher level of Gold for members like us that spend our money on a regular basis & meet the yearly requirement.
Gold status will soon be overloaded so expect less upgrades etc if there is no extra level introduce where we will be recognize.
Thoughts anyone on starting a petition to Erin to propose this to management.
TK is fast growing with many airline members switching due to easier qualifying levels
As a loyal HH member since 2006 & now looking like I will just about cover Gold for next year dropping from Diamond it appears that Gold is being devalued.
On this basis HH should consider a higher level of Gold for members like us that spend our money on a regular basis & meet the yearly requirement.
Gold status will soon be overloaded so expect less upgrades etc if there is no extra level introduce where we will be recognize.
Thoughts anyone on starting a petition to Erin to propose this to management.
#6
#7
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AUH
Posts: 8,266
I'm more shocked that you think Gold is supposed to be special in any way. Don't worry, you'll get used to the reality soon enough...
Let's think about what he might be saying by the end of the year, depending on his stays for the year:
If he somehow makes it back up to Diamond: I don't care what happens to Golds
If he manages to maintain Gold: I want Gold to be strictly qualifying criteria only, no exceptions
If he manages to just miss out on Gold: I want Gold to be strictly qualifying criteria only, but of course they should be willing to make exceptions for people who almost made it
If he is far from maintaining Gold: I think the airline promos are great, and they should be more widely available.
If he somehow makes it back up to Diamond: I don't care what happens to Golds
If he manages to maintain Gold: I want Gold to be strictly qualifying criteria only, no exceptions
If he manages to just miss out on Gold: I want Gold to be strictly qualifying criteria only, but of course they should be willing to make exceptions for people who almost made it
If he is far from maintaining Gold: I think the airline promos are great, and they should be more widely available.
#8
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 13,045
Gold has long been attainable with credit cards, other fast track offers, etc. However, it is rarely if ever possible to maintain Gold from fast track offers. I have been denied Diamond challenges because once I did a Gold fast track.
Letting people taste status is a perfectly valid way to drum up new business. Maybe most don't stick around, but a few will.
Too many people chasing upgrades? What upgrades? As a Diamond I'm rather bored of being upgraded into "executive" rooms that are the exact same size as normal rooms, but come with executive lounge access that I'm already due. Maybe it's better to be Gold and then be happy with the occasional upgrade to an executive room.
HHonors status is free breakfast and not much more. A poor return for 40 or 60 nights a year...
Letting people taste status is a perfectly valid way to drum up new business. Maybe most don't stick around, but a few will.
Too many people chasing upgrades? What upgrades? As a Diamond I'm rather bored of being upgraded into "executive" rooms that are the exact same size as normal rooms, but come with executive lounge access that I'm already due. Maybe it's better to be Gold and then be happy with the occasional upgrade to an executive room.
HHonors status is free breakfast and not much more. A poor return for 40 or 60 nights a year...
#9
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: AGH
Posts: 5,976
Hard enough to maintain Club Carlson and Marriott using the regular way...
#10
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Amsterdam, Asia, UK
Programs: IHG RA (Spire), HH Diamond, MR Platinum, SQ Gold, KLM Gold, BAEC Gold
Posts: 5,072
As HHD I predominantly get exactly the same upgrades as I did as an HHG only a few years ago, mostly upgrades under both to Deluxe rooms where hotels are smaller and have no lounge , and to exec where larger hotel with a lounge
Typically Deluxe rooms are as Guest but include robe&slippers, exec is same as deluxe but includes Lounge. Sometimes higher types are a few metres bigger but not that much
Only hotels consistently giving me more are
a)Hilton Antwerp who gave me more as a regular staying HHG guest anyway eg J-Suite AND my first HHD stay I got the top Royal Sinjoor Duplex Suite although hotel checkin paperwork had me down as lowly HHG STILL
b)Hilton den Haag who give HHGs Execs and HHDs Junior Suite
c)Hilton Wembley who give me full suites 8/10 stays
d)Hilton Rotterdam consistently give HHD j-Suite or Full suite
e)Hilton Amsterdam try to give HHDs a J-Suite
I just see HHD as having two benefits OVER HHD
I)guaranteed lounge
II)50% bonus plus 1K Myway bonus
I don't expect better than exec
Typically Deluxe rooms are as Guest but include robe&slippers, exec is same as deluxe but includes Lounge. Sometimes higher types are a few metres bigger but not that much
Only hotels consistently giving me more are
a)Hilton Antwerp who gave me more as a regular staying HHG guest anyway eg J-Suite AND my first HHD stay I got the top Royal Sinjoor Duplex Suite although hotel checkin paperwork had me down as lowly HHG STILL
b)Hilton den Haag who give HHGs Execs and HHDs Junior Suite
c)Hilton Wembley who give me full suites 8/10 stays
d)Hilton Rotterdam consistently give HHD j-Suite or Full suite
e)Hilton Amsterdam try to give HHDs a J-Suite
I just see HHD as having two benefits OVER HHD
I)guaranteed lounge
II)50% bonus plus 1K Myway bonus
I don't expect better than exec
Last edited by scubaccr; Aug 4, 2015 at 8:00 am