Go Back   FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Hotels and Loyalty Programs > Hilton | Hilton HHonors
Sign in using an external account

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Nov 3, 02, 5:20 pm   #1
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kansas City
Programs: AA Plat., HH Silver, SPG Gold
Posts: 90
Buy or Purchase Hilton HHonors Points

Just received the Hilton email and it included information on purchasing HH points for $12.50 per 1000 pts. with a max of 20,000 pts. per year. This seems like a great deal at $250 for 20,000 pts. compared to the average stay for $250 would only get you 2500-4000 pts. depending on your HH status. Any thoughts on this?

SG
swimtrip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 3, 02, 5:27 pm   #2
msn
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 2,011
This e-mail:

"Purchase HHonors Points
Now you can purchase up to 20,000 HHonors bonus points online, and they'll be deposited in your HHonors account immediately.

HHonors members can now purchase up to 20,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points online per calendar year to be used toward hotel stays, airline tickets or any other Hilton HHonors reward. Purchases may be made in increments of 1,000 bonus points and are only available for sale to individual HHonors members. Each 1,000 bonus points are available for only USD 12.50."

Depends - how many points for an in-room movie?

If you look at the "value" of these points as converted in airline miles, would you buy them?
__________________
msn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 3, 02, 6:05 pm   #3
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing
Posts: 71,543
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by msn:
This e-mail:

"Purchase HHonors Points
Now you can purchase up to 20,000 HHonors bonus points online, and they'll be deposited in your HHonors account immediately.

HHonors members can now purchase up to 20,000 Hilton HHonors bonus points online per calendar year to be used toward hotel stays, airline tickets or any other Hilton HHonors reward. Purchases may be made in increments of 1,000 bonus points and are only available for sale to individual HHonors members. Each 1,000 bonus points are available for only USD 12.50."

Depends - how many points for an in-room movie?

If you look at the "value" of these points as converted in airline miles, would you buy them?
</font>
If considering HHonors points converted to miles, I would not even think about it. Purchasing HHonors points only make sense if you will use them for hotel rooms that cost 313.00 or more including tax [i.e., 150k HHonors points for a 6-night GLONP -- if it is available]. Other than that, not a great deal.
__________________
Like TSA, DL SkyMiles management treats airline customers as if they are the enemy or sheep to be fleeced and it shows.
GUWonder is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 3, 02, 7:44 pm   #4
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Santa Monica, CA, USA
Posts: 1,013
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by swimtrip:
Just received the Hilton email and it included information on purchasing HH points for $12.50 per 1000 pts. with a max of 20,000 pts. per year. This seems like a great deal at $250 for 20,000 pts. compared to the average stay for $250 would only get you 2500-4000 pts. depending on your HH status. Any thoughts on this?

SG
</font>
I would agree that it only makes sense to buy the points if needed immediately for an award. You can't compare the cost to the cost of points you receive on a stay. Remember that if you spend $250 for a stay, you are also getting the stay - the points are a bonus. If you buy points, all you get are points - and I don't think they are worth 1.25 cents apiece.

VolleyballFerd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 2:01 am   #5
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 717
When you're short of points-Hilton charges you 10 dollars per thousand. What's so good about 12.50 per thousand?
sergio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 6:59 am   #6
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kansas City
Programs: AA Plat., HH Silver, SPG Gold
Posts: 90
Let's say you are already diamond and you wish to pad your account with more points for a future award?
swimtrip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 7:47 am   #7
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, A3 Gold, MR/SPG/PC Gold, HH Diamond, Nat ExecElite
Posts: 31,192
HH points definitely aren't worth 1.25 cents each, but if you are at 99,000 points and need to order your ALON cert today, then this is a great deal.

I'd say at the absolute max HH points are worth about .7 or .8 cents each. That's being liberal and assuming that you are doing ALONs and GLONs. It might be tempting to value them for more if you do a GLONP at the Hilton Paris when the rack rate is $500/night. But if you can get a decent hotel room in central Paris for $125/night, I would find it difficult to value the points any higher than about three-fourths of a cent apiece.
pinniped is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 1:21 pm   #8
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 12,782
One situation where they might be worth purchasing - a 3-night Point Stretcher award at an Opportunity-level hotel. Then it comes out to $62.50 a night. It would work well at the Scandics. Assuming they were offering a PS when you want to go.
PaulMSN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 3:34 pm   #9
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: atlanta, GA
Posts: 2,015
the rule of thumb is one HH point = 2/3rds of a cent.
LemonThrower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 7:08 pm   #10
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Bay Area native
Programs: AA EXP - Lifetime Plat
Posts: 444
This is a timely subject for me. I am staying Nov 21-25 at the Conrad Dublin using a Point Stretcher award for 66,000 points. Problem is, I currently have 60,757 points in my account right now.

The cheapest rate at the Conrad Dublin for my dates is $416.00 U.S. dollars, so the option of purchasing 6000 points at $12.50 per 1000 is great.

CA Platinum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 10:06 pm   #11
Moderator: Hertz
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: HHonors Gold since '02, Hertz President's Circle since '07
Posts: 3,138
You can get 20,000 points for free by getting the Delta Amex. No fee first year, and 10,000 bonus miles. Transferred to Hilton becomes 20,000 points.

And that's just one example; there are numerous others.

So no, IMHO buying is just not worth it.

[This message has been edited by Rut Dog (edited 11-04-2002).]
Rut Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 4, 02, 10:12 pm   #12
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Easton, CT, USA
Programs: ua prem exec, Former hilton diamond
Posts: 31,820
If you need the points immediatly for something then I would consider purchasing them, but if not then it's a waste of money. They ran two 50,000 point promotions last year, and one this year (that I know of, there could have been more), that would have gotten you 150,000 points for free.

If there is no pressing need for them, then buying them is just a waste of money.
__________________
Mike Cordelli mike@cordelli.com
cordelli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 18, 02, 7:05 pm   #13
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend and Moderator: Air Canada Aeroplan, Mileage Run & Manufactured Spending
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: YEG
Posts: 40,727
buying HH points possible

Just noticed this feature when was surfing around the HH website and don't remember seeing it before now (but I could be wrong).


https://www.hiltonhhonors.com/purchasepoints/


I know not everyone will like the USD 12.50 per 1,000 points purchase rate, but it depends what the goal is. When I was looking at staying at Scandic in CPH, found Opportunity level was 15,000 for 3 nights. So, that means someone with zero points could enroll, pay the USD 175.00 and get 3 nights that would normally cost around USD 108.00 per room per night at Scandic Webers in CPH.

And the thing I was happy to see was that you did not have to be a U.S. resident with U.S. credit card and U.S. billing address to purchase the points, which is the way it is with most of the major U.S. airlines.
tcook052 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19, 02, 11:11 am   #14
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: PC Pt Ambassador, Hyatt Pt (Visa,) HHonors Au (MP,) *wood Pref+, Marriott Ag, Avis Chairman's Club.
Posts: 5,545
I notice that HHonors has recently raised the price from $10 per Kpoint.

------------------
Play the travel game 3 vacations into the future!
__________________
Billions of people know of Sydney, Australia and Chicago, USA--but have never heard of New South Wales nor Illinois!
Brendan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 19, 02, 6:30 pm   #15
Original Member
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 1,368
Hi

Let's say you were after 15,000 hilton points.

15,000 points purchased through Hilton would cost $187.50

It would be better value to buy a Onepass prestige pack for $99 and this would give 7,500 miles (plus extras). That should transfer to 15,000 hilton points and is much cheaper.

Using the Scandic hotel example quoted earlier that would work out at $33 a night.

http://www.epinions.com/trvl-review-...3996F0EC-prod5

cheers Peter



[This message has been edited by ffhound (edited 11-19-2002).]
ffhound is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 3:42 pm.




SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.