Consolidated "Earning Hilton Honors Points for Multiple Rooms" thread
#301
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Programs: AC Elite
Posts: 6
I ran into a new problem this week. I had both rooms charged to the same folio as noted above, but only received points for one room (or half the folio). I guess I have to call Hhonors again to fix it.
#302
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 204
Good luck! I've been trying to get my points from my second room since 2/16. I am so tired of having to BEG for my points!!!
#304
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: West Hartford, CT
Programs: Marriott Silver, HiltonHonors Silver
Posts: 26
Points on Multiple Rooms Question
I just returned from the Cape where I along with 11 others on the team ran the Ragnar from Plymouth to Provincetown. On Thursday night some of us stayed in Plymouth and we had reserved 4 rooms at the Garden Inn. I had asked if anyone minded if I paid for all the rooms to obtain the points and no one else cared about the points so I did so.
So at check in I told the gentleman at the front desk that I would be paying for all 4 personally and to please put my credit card and hilton honors number down for each room and he was kind enough to help me do just that.
When I woke the next morning I noticed on the receipt the name of the person who had made the reservation was still on the folio along with my HH number.
Will the fact that he didnt put all the rooms under my name (despite my paying for all) prevent me from getting the points? They havent shown up as of yet but I dont know if that is because of a delay due to my number not being on the original reservation or because they dont plan on issuing the points.
Thank you for any help, it is appreciated.
Patrick
So at check in I told the gentleman at the front desk that I would be paying for all 4 personally and to please put my credit card and hilton honors number down for each room and he was kind enough to help me do just that.
When I woke the next morning I noticed on the receipt the name of the person who had made the reservation was still on the folio along with my HH number.
Will the fact that he didnt put all the rooms under my name (despite my paying for all) prevent me from getting the points? They havent shown up as of yet but I dont know if that is because of a delay due to my number not being on the original reservation or because they dont plan on issuing the points.
Thank you for any help, it is appreciated.
Patrick
#305
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Worcester, MA, BOS, PVD, BDL, MHT, ??ORH??
Programs: Delta Platinum, HHonors Diamond, PC Platinum
Posts: 11,928
You can earn points for two rooms only and the charges must be on one folio. Some have reported transferring all charges from multiple rooms to one room at the hotel, but that does not always work. Many people call (or put in a missing points request) after the stay and ask that charges from the second room be added to the first room folio. That usually works
cordelli will be along shortly to give you the exact t&c's link. I think he just cuts and pastes his post because, as others have said, this question comes up about every 10 days, and cordelli always graciously answers with the actual rules. Bottom line - you should get points for two rooms, not everyone's points for 4 rooms, and the fact that the hotel left the other guests name on the bill may or may be a problem.
cordelli will be along shortly to give you the exact t&c's link. I think he just cuts and pastes his post because, as others have said, this question comes up about every 10 days, and cordelli always graciously answers with the actual rules. Bottom line - you should get points for two rooms, not everyone's points for 4 rooms, and the fact that the hotel left the other guests name on the bill may or may be a problem.
#306
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okay, so I read a few more posts and found a link from cordelli to the T&C's. http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/...rual_of_points
A Member may earn Base Points for up to two rooms per stay, if all eligible charges for both rooms are paid on one folio. Base Points will be earned for all eligible folio charges incurred on both rooms. The term "eligible folio charges" is defined below. Bonus Points issued on Base Points, including tier bonuses (15%, 25% or 50%, depending on Member tier), Bonus Points earned through the HHonors Points and HHonors Points Earnings Style and double or triple Base point promotions, will apply to the total Base point credit earned for both rooms. For any other bonuses, including HHonors Marketing Partner Bonus Points and other promotional bonuses, Bonus Points will be awarded on one room only. For purposes of obtaining tier status, a Member may receive one stay credit on one room only. For purposes of earning miles for stays, miles may only be earned on one room only
A Member may earn Base Points for up to two rooms per stay, if all eligible charges for both rooms are paid on one folio. Base Points will be earned for all eligible folio charges incurred on both rooms. The term "eligible folio charges" is defined below. Bonus Points issued on Base Points, including tier bonuses (15%, 25% or 50%, depending on Member tier), Bonus Points earned through the HHonors Points and HHonors Points Earnings Style and double or triple Base point promotions, will apply to the total Base point credit earned for both rooms. For any other bonuses, including HHonors Marketing Partner Bonus Points and other promotional bonuses, Bonus Points will be awarded on one room only. For purposes of obtaining tier status, a Member may receive one stay credit on one room only. For purposes of earning miles for stays, miles may only be earned on one room only
#307
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Easton, CT, USA
Programs: ua prem exec, Former hilton diamond
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cordelli will be along shortly to give you the exact t&c's link. I think he just cuts and pastes his post because, as others have said, this question comes up about every 10 days, and cordelli always graciously answers with the actual rules. Bottom line - you should get points for two rooms, not everyone's points for 4 rooms, and the fact that the hotel left the other guests name on the bill may or may be a problem.
You can get points and credit for two rooms assuming they put them on the same folio. Just paying for them and having your account number on them is not enough for you to get credit for multiple rooms, the hotel actually needs to put them on the same folio. It sounds like they did not change it from the person who made the reservation (or they did change it but not correctly) so I don't think you will get any credit without asking them and explaining what you were trying to do. The name and number mis match on your room should prevent any points from posting on their own.
Since you were promised the actual terms
never mind, beaten to them.
By the way don't go crazy looking for links to terms, I don't have a clue where they are. Just go to
www.hhonors.com
and at the bottom of the page click on terms and conditions
#308
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: West Hartford, CT
Programs: Marriott Silver, HiltonHonors Silver
Posts: 26
thanks for taking the time to reply and answer my question, I appreciate it. Looks like I likely will be out of luck for any points at all which is disappointing because I communicated my intent at the desk but did not check that all the changes were properly made.
thanks again
Patrick
thanks again
Patrick
#309
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Since you were promised the actual terms
never mind, beaten to them.
By the way don't go crazy looking for links to terms, I don't have a clue where they are. Just go to
www.hhonors.com
and at the bottom of the page click on terms and conditions
never mind, beaten to them.
By the way don't go crazy looking for links to terms, I don't have a clue where they are. Just go to
www.hhonors.com
and at the bottom of the page click on terms and conditions
I knew you would have the answer to this never ending question. At least this one had a twist in the diferent names and same HHonors number.
#310
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: York, PA
Programs: MRSPG LT Tit, HH Diamond, Hertz Pres.
Posts: 1,737
First off, my fault for never reading the T/C. When I travel for leisure, I always get a second room for my 2-3 kids. Typically, points dont post, call to the DD and presto, there they are.
I had a 3 night stay 2 weeks ago, 2 rooms. When the second did not post, I called. The DD told me I had to wait 5 days. After 5 days, they opened a case to get the points, telling me it will take 7-10 business days.
Very frustrating
I had a 3 night stay 2 weeks ago, 2 rooms. When the second did not post, I called. The DD told me I had to wait 5 days. After 5 days, they opened a case to get the points, telling me it will take 7-10 business days.
Very frustrating
#311
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The way I get around the rule working within the system is pretty easy. When I check in to the hotel I let the front desk clerk know I want all the other room charges "journaled" to my room account. What this does is transfers all the room charges to my room. This allows me to get all the points from everyone's stay. I don't get credit for the overnight stay but I do earn points on all the dollars spent.
#312
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,689
I have had this work on occasion as well by asking them to merge the efolios to one master room. Will be booking four rooms at the Hilton Arc de Triomphe and need the base points from at least three rooms to make Diamond again. Does anyone have experience asking this hotel specifically to merge the efolios?
Just play by the rules. If you try to place them all on one folio, it may be that none of it will post and you will have a fine mess on your hands for trying to 'cheat' the system.
#313
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 774
So, I ask at checking for folios for two rooms to be merged onto just one folio, told no problem.
Ask again at checkout to confirm the two folios will be merged into one. Told no proble,
Next week, the cheaper room-only folio posts to my hhonors account, nothing from the suite with all the charges on it posts at all. Looking at my history, it looks as though the hotel closed the folios separately, despite their insistence they'd be merged.
Where is the best place to get this resolved? Hotel, Hhonors CS, anywhere else? Anyone have any tips?
Ask again at checkout to confirm the two folios will be merged into one. Told no proble,
Next week, the cheaper room-only folio posts to my hhonors account, nothing from the suite with all the charges on it posts at all. Looking at my history, it looks as though the hotel closed the folios separately, despite their insistence they'd be merged.
Where is the best place to get this resolved? Hotel, Hhonors CS, anywhere else? Anyone have any tips?
#314
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Getting such where ever possible is a basic tenet for all my stays - whether for one or more rooms - it does mean I cannot use express check out and I generally won't require the printout later (~95% of the time) - but the other 1 in ~20 times I have needed one makes it worth while.
Last edited by serfty; Aug 8, 2012 at 7:11 pm
#315
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You are missing my point... They actually provide a definition for a "stay" in the T&Cs as regards tier status, but they do not DEFINE what is meant by "nights" with respect to tier status. It can be INFERRED from the phrase you are quoting, but nowhere is the nights that count towards tier status defined.
For instance, the T&Cs do NOT state that "For purposes of obtaining tier status, a Member may receive night credits on one room only." Further, the T&Cs do NOT state that "Night Credits" are defined as the total number of consecutive nights spent at the same hotel."
As I stated previously, it is likely that you are correct, but there is nothing specifically defining what nights count towards tier status in terms of obtaining status based on the number of nights. That much is clear.
For instance, the T&Cs do NOT state that "For purposes of obtaining tier status, a Member may receive night credits on one room only." Further, the T&Cs do NOT state that "Night Credits" are defined as the total number of consecutive nights spent at the same hotel."
As I stated previously, it is likely that you are correct, but there is nothing specifically defining what nights count towards tier status in terms of obtaining status based on the number of nights. That much is clear.
This appears three times in the T&C's - whether they were there before the recent changes or not I am not sure.
Hilton HHonors Membership Tiers
A "night" is a night that is part of a "stay," as that term is defined herein.
To put it another way: if a 'stay' can only earned for the one room then only the 'nights' that are part of that 'stay' for that one room would count toward tier status.