Hilton Sydney {AUS}
#61
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SYD / TYO
Programs: QF Gold, OZ Dia, HH Dia, SPG Plat25, MR Plat, Hertz PC, Sixt Plat
Posts: 204
Award rooms now available
Just took a quick look at award availability at the Hilton Sydney.
It seems the Guestroom Plus has now been made the standard room. There is plenty of award availability now at 60,000 points per night.
Workable, but not amazing redemption value.
It seems the Guestroom Plus has now been made the standard room. There is plenty of award availability now at 60,000 points per night.
Workable, but not amazing redemption value.
#62
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Australia
Programs: QFF LTG , HHD
Posts: 1,206
You're right! An amazing change. ^ Maybe the hotel has been called out!
#63
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ORF
Programs: UA 1K MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Accor Silver, Marriott Gold, CAM Card
Posts: 392
Wow, this is exciting! But, it was one week too late for me. We stayed at the Swissotel around the corner from the Hilton last weekend.
#64
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,163
I guess dynamic pricing?
Still, even with 60,000 points required, IMHO it's way too overpriced.
#65
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 278
It actually used to go down to 40,000 points a night before on cheap nights (premium reward would be that much for guestroom plus). still a bad value compared to the rate though.
points redemption still worthless here, and the points cost goes up on the more expensive nights.
points redemption still worthless here, and the points cost goes up on the more expensive nights.
Last edited by mingzie; Jun 1, 2016 at 9:25 pm
#66
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SYD / TYO
Programs: QF Gold, OZ Dia, HH Dia, SPG Plat25, MR Plat, Hertz PC, Sixt Plat
Posts: 204
I think we should at least be happy they changed their policy re redemptions! Certainly, the standard reward rate isn't great value, but can be decent when cash rates are high. I do however think that this is more a category 6 or 7 property though.
Also, premium room rewards here can also often be lower than the standard points rate.
Also, premium room rewards here can also often be lower than the standard points rate.
#67
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 278
I think we should at least be happy they changed their policy re redemptions! Certainly, the standard reward rate isn't great value, but can be decent when cash rates are high. I do however think that this is more a category 6 or 7 property though.
Also, premium room rewards here can also often be lower than the standard points rate.
Also, premium room rewards here can also often be lower than the standard points rate.
In fact we should be even less happy because points cost looks like it has overall INCREASED (lowest redemption prior was 40K points).
This is just a way they did a workaround to wiggle around the rules again. Every other Hilton Hotel provides solid point rates based on the month. This one just charges 20K-80k points extra when the cash rate is more. You will NEVER get a good points rate when the cash rate is high.
#68
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 378
Was here about a year ago the Gold only got me the lounge for breakfast, whereas the year before it got me breakfast in the Restaurant. I believe they said Diamonds get breakfast in the restaurant. Is this true/still the case? Coming back in a few months and debating a few hotels so want to make sure I know what to expect at certain hotels.
#69
Join Date: May 2012
Programs: BA Gold, HHonors Diamond, IHG Platinum, Senior Railcard & Bus Pass
Posts: 983
I have an 11 night stay beginnng 31st July. I have had email confirmation that a Diamond gets a 'full buffet breakfast' in Glass restaurant. I shall report back in in a couple of weeks time.
#70
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.6MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, HawaiianMiles
Posts: 8,633
As a Diamond on many visits, I have always been able to breakfast in Glass, including just a couple months ago.
#71
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Sunny SYDNEY!
Programs: UA Million Miler. (1.9M) Virgin Platinum. HH Diamond + SPG Gold
Posts: 32,330
Glass for breakfast recently, no issues.
As a Diamond you'd EXPECT it, but had a Waldorf Astoria NYC booking last month, and they told me ZERO breakfasts anywhere for a Diamond. And ZERO lounge access anywhere in the property. Others here confirmed that is the deal. Weird.
Had a night at JFK Hilton on way home and got a beat up airline crew type room.
Diamond means little in many US Hiltons. On way back had a night at Tokyo Hilton and got a suite and treated like Royalty. SUCH a difference. @:-)
As a Diamond you'd EXPECT it, but had a Waldorf Astoria NYC booking last month, and they told me ZERO breakfasts anywhere for a Diamond. And ZERO lounge access anywhere in the property. Others here confirmed that is the deal. Weird.
Had a night at JFK Hilton on way home and got a beat up airline crew type room.
Diamond means little in many US Hiltons. On way back had a night at Tokyo Hilton and got a suite and treated like Royalty. SUCH a difference. @:-)
Last edited by ozstamps; Jul 21, 2016 at 7:36 pm
#72
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: HH Lifetime Diamond, DL PM, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 918
You shouldn't expect it, and it is not "weird" at all that they did not offer it. Breakfast is not and has never been a stated benefit at Waldorf Astoria properties. Provide the feedback in the "HHonors feedback to VP thread" that WA benefits should align with the rest of the brands.
#73
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Sunny SYDNEY!
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And I am entitled to mine. Which is - It IS weird, and I did expect it.
I then cancelled the $2000 booking, so you work out who the loser is here. @:-)
The front desk manager phoned me in Sydney to kindly offer me breakfast, so even the Hotel seems to realise it is a weird policy.
I heard recently the Chinese owners are turning over a lot of the WA rooms to Condos etc, so maybe a lot more folks than me thought it was "weird" and voted with their wallets. The customer is ALWAYS right.
#74
Join Date: Aug 2013
Programs: HH Lifetime Diamond, DL PM, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 918
You are entitled to your opinion.
And I am entitled to mine. Which is - It IS weird, and I did expect it.
I then cancelled the $2000 booking, so you work out who the loser is here. @:-)
The front desk manager phoned me in Sydney to kindly offer me breakfast, so even the Hotel seems to realise it is a weird policy.
I heard recently the Chinese owners are turning over a lot of the WA rooms to Condos etc, so maybe a lot more folks than me thought it was "weird" and voted with their wallets. The customer is ALWAYS right.
And I am entitled to mine. Which is - It IS weird, and I did expect it.
I then cancelled the $2000 booking, so you work out who the loser is here. @:-)
The front desk manager phoned me in Sydney to kindly offer me breakfast, so even the Hotel seems to realise it is a weird policy.
I heard recently the Chinese owners are turning over a lot of the WA rooms to Condos etc, so maybe a lot more folks than me thought it was "weird" and voted with their wallets. The customer is ALWAYS right.
#75
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 378
You are entitled to your opinion.
And I am entitled to mine. Which is - It IS weird, and I did expect it.
I then cancelled the $2000 booking, so you work out who the loser is here. @:-)
The front desk manager phoned me in Sydney to kindly offer me breakfast, so even the Hotel seems to realise it is a weird policy.
I heard recently the Chinese owners are turning over a lot of the WA rooms to Condos etc, so maybe a lot more folks than me thought it was "weird" and voted with their wallets. The customer is ALWAYS right.
And I am entitled to mine. Which is - It IS weird, and I did expect it.
I then cancelled the $2000 booking, so you work out who the loser is here. @:-)
The front desk manager phoned me in Sydney to kindly offer me breakfast, so even the Hotel seems to realise it is a weird policy.
I heard recently the Chinese owners are turning over a lot of the WA rooms to Condos etc, so maybe a lot more folks than me thought it was "weird" and voted with their wallets. The customer is ALWAYS right.