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Old Nov 18, 02, 7:26 am   #1
 
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Award Stays, Status Stays

Do award stays count towards qualification for Diamond status?
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Old Nov 18, 02, 8:13 am   #2
 
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In short, No. But they will show up on you stay/night counter and you can get points for incidentals such as phone calls, in room movies or room service.
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Old Dec 4, 02, 11:42 am   #3
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Reward stays to count for VIP status

I did a search and couldn't find a mention of the following.

Effective January 1, 2003, your Reward stays will count toward VIP tier qualification. And HHonors VIP members will receive the VIP point bonus on Base points earned for incidental spending during HHonors hotel Reward Stays. It all adds up to putting you on a faster track to enjoying exclusive VIP privileges!
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Old Dec 4, 02, 11:46 am   #4
 
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For once, excellent news from Hilton.

(editing my post to note I found it on the website)

http://www.hilton.com/en/hhonors/benefits/levels.jhtml

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[This message has been edited by nako (edited 12-04-2002).]
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Old Dec 4, 02, 11:52 am   #5
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Yes. I copied directly from the website!
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Old Dec 4, 02, 11:53 am   #6
 
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At the same time (same link as above),

"Effective January 1, 2003, stays at Entertainment and Encore rates are no longer eligible for stay credit toward VIP status."
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Old Dec 4, 02, 11:55 am   #7
 
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Also,

" Beginning January 1, 2003, every HHonors Base point you earn starting this date will help qualify you for VIP status. You'll earn Gold VIP status after earning 60,000 Base points in a calendar year. You'll earn Diamond VIP status after earning 100,000 Base points in a calendar year. Of course, you can still qualify based on your number of qualifying stays or nights."
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Old Dec 4, 02, 12:20 pm   #8
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Can't it be argued that this further devalues elite status in HHonors?
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Old Dec 4, 02, 12:52 pm   #9
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Gaucho100K:
Can't it be argued that this further devalues elite status in HHonors?</font>
How so? Those redeeming any significant amount of points more than likely are already elite anyway.
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Old Dec 4, 02, 2:14 pm   #10
 
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Sorry, if I didn't think this completely through, but Diamond for 100,000 base points would require $8,000.00 or more in Hilton spending wouldn't it? ( I get 12.5 points per $ as a gold)The CNTU 50,000 points and the like are bonus points not base points, correct? So, unless the 100,000 pts just "happened" because of paid stays at one's company's expense or the like, why would anyone pay an average $133.33 per night to get Diamond this way? Wouldn't it be easier to do 28 $100 stays or 60 $100 nights?

Are Hilton's generally more expensive than my experience has been? ( I averaged $80 to $100 per night to get to Gold).
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Old Dec 4, 02, 2:36 pm   #11
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Biblioman:
Sorry, if I didn't think this completely through, but Diamond for 100,000 base points would require $8,000.00 or more in Hilton spending wouldn't it? ( I get 12.5 points per $ as a gold)</font>
Actually, it would take $10,000 in HH lodging spending, as elite bonus points (e.g., 25% as a gold) are just that, bonus, not base points.
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Old Dec 4, 02, 8:39 pm   #12
 
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Has anyone heard whether points earned through the Hilton credit cards will count as base points or as bonus points? I am assuming bonus, but if they were instead base, that would be great news.
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Old Dec 5, 02, 9:47 am   #13
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by amanuensis:
I am assuming bonus</font>
Correct assumption...
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Old Feb 3, 03, 7:44 am   #14
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Here is what I earned for a HHonors reward stay in January:

AGNT promo 2,500
HNET BONUS 1,000 0 (reserved online)
Base Points 392 0 (ate dinner once)
DIAMOND VIP - 2003 196

1 stay credit and 6 nights credit

500 Airline miles!


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Old Feb 3, 03, 7:47 am   #15
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Overall I must say this is working well. It is also enticing me to stay on paid stays with Hilton for extended periods in South Africa for two conferences I have in Durban this summer and fall.
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