Examples of point upgrade and point+cash
May 3, 2011, 12:42 pm
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Examples of point upgrade and point+cash
How do I find out what properties have these options available? The official website seems to suggest they are being rolled out gradually. Am not planning for any specific stays until next year. But for the places I checked in IL/OH/FL, London, Rome and Shanghai, none of them seems to offer them just yet. I guess I am just curious about how these actually work in real life...
May 3, 2011, 1:12 pm
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Hilton Copenhagen Airport offered point upgrade rooms. Example is a larger room with a sofabed that would sleep four was 56K points vs 40K for the standard room. So for a family of 4, that would be quite a savings over having to get 2 rooms. But no points plus cash option.
May 3, 2011, 1:46 pm
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It will be on the website for each property.
In Copenhagen for example to use the hotel mentioned above for a random night in June
King Deluxe Room - 160,283
Guest Room Plus - 186,089
Twin Room - 40,000
King Room - 40,000
Presidential Suite - 819,768
Twin Executive Room - 197,558
Twin Deluxe Room - 160,283
Executive Room Plus - 211,895
King Executive Room - 197,558
In Copenhagen for example to use the hotel mentioned above for a random night in June
King Deluxe Room - 160,283
Guest Room Plus - 186,089
Twin Room - 40,000
King Room - 40,000
Presidential Suite - 819,768
Twin Executive Room - 197,558
Twin Deluxe Room - 160,283
Executive Room Plus - 211,895
King Executive Room - 197,558
May 3, 2011, 2:42 pm
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I like to have all these different options but at the same time am alarmed by the lengthes to which they have gone to get the point 'right' for each category - hope it doesn't affect the gold and diamond members' ability to score upgrades without paying...
Last edited by lancexfang; May 3, 2011 at 3:07 pm
May 4, 2011, 12:33 am
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Deluxe room = 4 * HH Points King Room
Who is ready to burn so many points for a slightly better room? probably someone with several million HH points, and if you have such a big amount, very likely, means that you are already HHD and you get the upgraded room for free, or I am missing something here?
May 4, 2011, 2:50 am
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Deluxe room = 4 * HH Points King Room
Who is ready to burn so many points for a slightly better room? probably someone with several million HH points, and if you have such a big amount, very likely, means that you are already HHD and you get the upgraded room for free, or I am missing something here?
Deluxe room = 4 * HH Points King Room
Who is ready to burn so many points for a slightly better room? probably someone with several million HH points, and if you have such a big amount, very likely, means that you are already HHD and you get the upgraded room for free, or I am missing something here?
May 4, 2011, 6:39 am
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Conrad SIN was offered at 20K + $88 SGD. I think that's a fantastic deal as the rooms normally go for 40K or $280+ SGD prepaid/$350 best rate.
Assuming points will be credited for the paid portion of the stay, I like the new options. Upgrades seem to be off the mark though.
Assuming points will be credited for the paid portion of the stay, I like the new options. Upgrades seem to be off the mark though.
May 9, 2011, 6:07 am
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Mods. How about a Sticky?
I suggest the Mods start a Sticky so BMs can post places offering points+cash as this program is rolled out. Hilton apparently doesn't want to promote this info with its members so BMs could run a self-help info share until the program is fully rolled out. After its all rolled out the sticky could be closed.
May 9, 2011, 9:38 am
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May 9, 2011, 11:38 pm
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May 10, 2011, 6:47 am
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Thank you Mods for making this a Sticky. I will check it daily to see where points+cash has been rolled out. All I've seen so far is Singapore. Has anyone seen other examples? BMs will really help each other if we post here when we find a property offering points+cash.
May 13, 2011, 3:14 pm
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Hilton Durban Hotel in South Africa offers points + cash award.
This hotel is a category 3, which is normally 25,000 points per night. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your perspective, Point Stretcher Date is available during my stay, which is a cost of 15,000 points, all-in. Given the difference of only 2,500 points, Point Stretcher is clearly the better deal since 274.76 ZAR = $40 USD
Originally Posted by Hilton Durban Hotel
Rate details POINTS AND MONEY RWD
ALL TIER LEVELS APPLY POINTS AND MONEY PER NIGHT LOS RESTRICTIONS APPLY APPLIES TO STANDARD ROOMS ONLY NO SHOWS WILL BE CHARGED MINIMUM DAILY RATE HHONORS USE ONLY: VTC CREDIT
Room: KING HILTON GUEST ROOM
DATE Price per night TOTAL (ZAR)
16 Jun 2011 274.76 + 12,500 points 274.76 + 12,500 points
Room Subtotal: 274.76 + 12,500 points
ALL TIER LEVELS APPLY POINTS AND MONEY PER NIGHT LOS RESTRICTIONS APPLY APPLIES TO STANDARD ROOMS ONLY NO SHOWS WILL BE CHARGED MINIMUM DAILY RATE HHONORS USE ONLY: VTC CREDIT
Room: KING HILTON GUEST ROOM
DATE Price per night TOTAL (ZAR)
16 Jun 2011 274.76 + 12,500 points 274.76 + 12,500 points
Room Subtotal: 274.76 + 12,500 points
May 13, 2011, 3:30 pm
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Upgrade award available as well
This hotel is a category 3, which is normally 25,000 points per night. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your perspective, Point Stretcher Date is available during my stay, which is a cost of 15,000 points, all-in. Given the difference of only 2,500 points, Point Stretcher is clearly the better deal since 274.76 ZAR = $40 USD
Standard room = 15,000 points Point Stretcher or $350 USD (2,450 ZAR) / Night
Deluxe room = 125,712 points or $413 USD (2,900 ZAR) / Night
Executive room = 132,214 points or $437 USD (3,050 ZAR) / Night
Deluxe Plus room = 192,903 points or $634 USD (4,450 ZAR) / Night
Executive Suite = 279,601 points or $920 USD (6,450 ZAR) / Night
Terrace Suite = 312,112 points or $1,026 USD (7,200 ZAR) / Night
Presidential Suite = 518,020 points or $1,703 USD (11,950 ZAR) / Night
On dates when room rates are lower, the Premium Rooms' points also drop as well. It seems as though the amount of points required for Premium Room and Suites are linked to the published rates at this hotel. Anyone with a calculator can figure out the points to cash conversion ratio based on the info posted above.