Aloha, I need to book interisland flights for my aunt arriving BKK-NRT-HNL on ANA @ 8:45 AM, connecting to KOA. How much time should I allow her for immigration (non-US pax), customs, security, and transfer? No carrier allegiance here, my nonstop options for that day appear to be:
HA 168 Departs HNL 10:20 AM
go! 1003 Departs HNL 11:30 AM
HA 348 Departs HNL 1:44 PM
This is a tricky subject and probably why it hasn't received many replies. It really depends on how heavy the loads are for customs that morning. If I were you, I'd probably try to pad in as much time as possible and perhaps pay to standby on an earlier flight if you get in earlier. Do note that a large majority (95% of international flights arrive between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m.) arrive in the mornings at HNL, so customs can get slammed if it's a busy travel day. Course, having never had to wait in the non-US Citizen line, I have no idea how long it could take.
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Can NH interline bags from BKK thru to KOA on HA/go! or will my aunt need to claim bags and recheck-in for interisland? I read that there is a bag drop counter for checked bags with interlined tags.
Mahalo!
There's a bag drop for connecting pax. Never had to connect off an international flight in HNL though so no experience here on whether NH can interline to HA/go!.
This is a tricky subject and probably why it hasn't received many replies. It really depends on how heavy the loads are for customs that morning. If I were you, I'd probably try to pad in as much time as possible and perhaps pay to standby on an earlier flight if you get in earlier. Do note that a large majority (95% of international flights arrive between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m.) arrive in the mornings at HNL, so customs can get slammed if it's a busy travel day. Course, having never had to wait in the non-US Citizen line, I have no idea how long it could take. There's a bag drop for connecting pax. Never had to connect off an international flight in HNL though so no experience here on whether NH can interline to HA/go!.
I was afraid of that, mahalo for the advice slippahs. I ended up booking my aunt on a Mokulele flight @ 11:10 AM. That's nearly 2.5 hours. It looks like their interisland gates (former Aloha gates) are right outside customs, so hope that minimizes connection headaches. I'll report back if my aunt tells me it was a nightmare
Right now, they don't have any interline agreements released on their website, nor has OLCI been rolled out. Any word on when Mokulele may make OLCI available? Their website says it was supposed to be rolled out in November 2008.
I know this have been mentioned in the FAQ, but i want to make sure nothing changed and get a little bit more detail, Thanks
dose anyone know if islandair provide through check-in for Northwest?
If i get a Hawaiian air codeshare of the islandair flight, could i get through check-in then?
How much connection time is enough for a islandair flight connection?
How much dose Hawaiian ground crews follow the prioity tag, in case i have to go through baggage claim?
Less than the minimum for baggage - you might make it, your bags won't.
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Originally Posted by spkg
I know this have been mentioned in the FAQ, but i want to make sure nothing changed and get a little bit more detail, Thanks
dose anyone know if islandair provide through check-in for Northwest?
If i get a Hawaiian air codeshare of the islandair flight, could i get through check-in then?
How much connection time is enough for a islandair flight connection?
How much dose Hawaiian ground crews follow the prioity tag, in case i have to go through baggage claim?
I know this have been mentioned in the FAQ, but i want to make sure nothing changed and get a little bit more detail, Thanks
dose anyone know if islandair provide through check-in for Northwest?
If i get a Hawaiian air codeshare of the islandair flight, could i get through check-in then?
How much connection time is enough for a islandair flight connection?
How much dose Hawaiian ground crews follow the prioity tag, in case i have to go through baggage claim?
I agree with cblaisd. 32 minutes is not enough to make it to the NW gates to the commuter terminal. WP provides free standby. So book the later flight, and if you make it to the gate in time for the earlier flight, ask the GA to let you on.
NW will indeed interline your bags to WP. I'd allow at least 90 minutes for this particular connection.
well here's the situation, i'm arriving at HNL on NW625 which is published to arrives at 4:13, and the WP flight to JHM that leaves at 4:45 is the last one of the day. However, NW625 according to flightstats is almost always early. If the worst happens, i'll just get on a later HA flight to OGG, not too much of a problem, with that said, what dose everyone think my chances of getting on the WP flight are.
I figured since the the WP flight is so cheap, and the cancellation fee being only $20 for the two of us, i rather take the chance, because it would cost us around $200 extra to through from OGG to our hotel. so we're only risking $20 to save $200, and as long as my chances of getting on the WP flight is more than 10%, we'd be better off.
well here's the situation, i'm arriving at HNL on NW625 which is published to arrives at 4:13, and the WP flight to JHM that leaves at 4:45 is the last one of the day. However, NW625 according to flightstats is almost always early. If the worst happens, i'll just get on a later HA flight to OGG, not too much of a problem, with that said, what dose everyone think my chances of getting on the WP flight are.
I figured since the the WP flight is so cheap, and the cancellation fee being only $20 for the two of us, i rather take the chance, because it would cost us around $200 extra to through from OGG to our hotel. so we're only risking $20 to save $200, and as long as my chances of getting on the WP flight is more than 10%, we'd be better off.
Can I ask why it's costing an extra $200 to get to your Maui hotel from OGG? Are you not renting a car while on Maui?
I'm not so sure NW625 always gets in early. From November 2008-January 2009 I monitored this flight almost every day since I took it a few weeks ago and had an obligation at 5:30, leaving me an hour to get from the airport across town in rush hour traffic. The flight would be delayed occasionally. In your case, you have far less breathing room. During that period I monitored, the flight would sometimes get in on-time, sometimes have some severe delays (usually a mx. or it's delayed awaiting connecting pax), and sometimes get in early.
Where are you sitting on this flight? In quasi-WBC? In Y? Remember that the ground crew and FAs lets out the WBC cabin go first upon arrival. Thus, depending on where you're sitting (with the exception of 10A/B), you have a long wait to get off this heavy. Even if you touch down on time or early, you've lost that time waiting to get off. Moreover, unless you plan on sprinting, you have to get from Gate 12/13 to the commuter terminal, which is a far walk (probably about the distance of getting from the F concourse to the A/B concourse area at MSP without the tram). If you do this inside security, it will take you at least 15 minutes (let's not forget it's hot and humid in HNL, so prepare to sweat if you've got bags). When you get to the base of the commuter terminal, you have to wait for a WP representative to let you into the boarding area. You must be on the flight 15 minutes prior or else your reservations will be canceled.
The end result is: I think your chances of making this flight are slimmer than you really think.
Unfortunately, this is all just a consequence of JHM's after-dark arrival/departure restrictions. If at all possible, my suggestion would be to fly to OGG, rent a one-way car to your hotel. If you're staying in the Ka'anapali/Kapalua area, all major car rentals have a location and you can probably get a fairly decent one-way rental.
But don't say that I--or others on this forum--didn't warn you if you go for it. If you make it, more power to ya. If you don't, perhaps the cancellation penalties aren't high, but why stress about an overnight in HNL?
Can I ask why it's costing an extra $200 to get to your Maui hotel from OGG? Are you not renting a car while on Maui?
I'm not so sure NW625 always gets in early. From November 2008-January 2009 I monitored this flight almost every day since I took it a few weeks ago and had an obligation at 5:30, leaving me an hour to get from the airport across town in rush hour traffic. The flight would be delayed occasionally. In your case, you have far less breathing room. During that period I monitored, the flight would sometimes get in on-time, sometimes have some severe delays (usually a mx. or it's delayed awaiting connecting pax), and sometimes get in early.
Where are you sitting on this flight? In quasi-WBC? In Y? Remember that the ground crew and FAs lets out the WBC cabin go first upon arrival. Thus, depending on where you're sitting (with the exception of 10A/B), you have a long wait to get off this heavy. Even if you touch down on time or early, you've lost that time waiting to get off. Moreover, unless you plan on sprinting, you have to get from Gate 12/13 to the commuter terminal, which is a far walk (probably about the distance of getting from the F concourse to the A/B concourse area at MSP without the tram). If you do this inside security, it will take you at least 15 minutes (let's not forget it's hot and humid in HNL, so prepare to sweat if you've got bags). When you get to the base of the commuter terminal, you have to wait for a WP representative to let you into the boarding area. You must be on the flight 15 minutes prior or else your reservations will be canceled.
The end result is: I think your chances of making this flight are slimmer than you really think.
Unfortunately, this is all just a consequence of JHM's after-dark arrival/departure restrictions. If at all possible, my suggestion would be to fly to OGG, rent a one-way car to your hotel. If you're staying in the Ka'anapali/Kapalua area, all major car rentals have a location and you can probably get a fairly decent one-way rental.
But don't say that I--or others on this forum--didn't warn you if you go for it. If you make it, more power to ya. If you don't, perhaps the cancellation penalties aren't high, but why stress about an overnight in HNL?
I only wish i could rent a car, i'm three months away from my 21st birthday, (if you know a rental agency in OGG that rents to 20 year olds, please let me know). The shuttle ride for the two of us will be around $130, also the ticket price to OGG is quite a bit higer than the on to JHM.
I am sitting in the what-would-be WBC cabin, so getting off the plane shouldn't be a big problem. and my GF and i both do track, so yeah, we'll be running.
MY huge concern is my luggage. I did a TTU, and NW told me they don't do through check-in, so i take it we'll have to go through luggage claim, and then take the wiki wiki bus, and we're screwed if the HNL ground crew don't respect the priority tag.
The reason i'm so optimistic is because i did a connection in HNL for a NRT mainland trip, and it took me all of 25 minutes to get from the gate of my incoming flight, through customs, security check, and all the way to the WC near gate 12.
I think what I'll do is book an award ticket for HNL-OGG later in the day, and if i make the JHM flight, i'll cancel the OGG flight.
I only wish i could rent a car, i'm three months away from my 21st birthday, (if you know a rental agency in OGG that rents to 20 year olds, please let me know). The shuttle ride for the two of us will be around $130, also the ticket price to OGG is quite a bit higer than the on to JHM.
If you do some digging, IIRC there are rental agencies that rent to those who are between 18-21.
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I am sitting in the what-would-be WBC cabin, so getting off the plane shouldn't be a big problem. and my GF and i both do track, so yeah, we'll be running.
Okay.
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Originally Posted by spkg
MY huge concern is my luggage. I did a TTU, and NW told me they don't do through check-in, so i take it we'll have to go through luggage claim, and then take the wiki wiki bus, and we're screwed if the HNL ground crew don't respect the priority tag.
NW does indeed do interline baggage transfers to WP in HNL. The TTU rep probably didn't understand the question. But it doesn't matter for your connection... the bags will probably never make it and would probably be held for the next morning's flight (you need at least 45-60 minutes for a good chance at a transfer being done; the minimum at HNL is generally set at 45).
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The reason i'm so optimistic is because i did a connection in HNL for a NRT mainland trip, and it took me all of 25 minutes to get from the gate of my incoming flight, through customs, security check, and all the way to the WC near gate 12.
But were you coming in from a flight in the commuter terminal? Or were you arriving on a flight from the continental US?
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I think what I'll do is book an award ticket for HNL-OGG later in the day, and if i make the JHM flight, i'll cancel the OGG flight.
But were you coming in from a flight in the commuter terminal? Or were you arriving on a flight from the continental US?
I was on a NRT-HNL flight, i don't know which terminal we landed in, but i did have to take a wiki wiki bus after getting off the plane to get to the customs office, it was quite a ways to travel, but everything went really smoothly, maybe i was just really lucky that day.
Wow, thanks so much, I always knew flyertalkers were helpful but you've got to be one of the best of the best, if you're ever taveling to London, Ontario, or Guangzhou, China, give me a message, i'd love to help you out.
Unforunately, i think the underage meant by the website was under 25 (as in they don't charge a fee), but i'll call them to make sure, I've done alot of searching myself and all the large rental agencies all seem to have a age limit of 21, maybe there's some small local ones that's rent to me.
Unforunately, i think the underage meant by the website was under 25 (as in they don't charge a fee), but i'll call them to make sure, I've done alot of searching myself and all the large rental agencies all seem to have a age limit of 21, maybe there's some small local ones that's rent to me.
Sorry, I misread and thought you were over 21. There may be some local agencies that rent to under 18 year olds but you're right that none of the national chains will.
Can I make from a Delta 3:12 pm flight to a Hawaiian Airline flight at 4:20 pm? No checked bags. Want to go see the lava at the Big Island. They say the gates open from 6:00 to 8:00 pm. Hope I make both the flight and the chance to see the lava.
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(if you know a rental agency in OGG that rents to 20 year olds, please let me know). The shuttle ride for the two of us will be around $130, also the ticket price to OGG is quite a bit higer than the on to JHM. 
