Nov 3, 2023, 9:29 am
Last edit by: FlyinHawaiian
HA's official web page on the lie flats
24 aircraft converted: N360HA, N361HA, N370HA, N373HA, N374HA, N375HA, N378HA, N379HA, N380HA, N381HA, N382HA, N383HA, N384HA, N385HA, N386HA, N388HA, N389HA, N390HA, N391HA, N392HA, N393HA, N395HA, N396HA, N399HA
24 aircraft converted: N360HA, N361HA, N370HA, N373HA, N374HA, N375HA, N378HA, N379HA, N380HA, N381HA, N382HA, N383HA, N384HA, N385HA, N386HA, N388HA, N389HA, N390HA, N391HA, N392HA, N393HA, N395HA, N396HA, N399HA
Consolidated "Hawaiian Airlines A330" thread
Aug 7, 2015, 7:50 pm
#436
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http://airleasecorp.com/2015/07/22/a...iian-airlines/
Aug 8, 2015, 6:50 pm
#437
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Azj-any idea why they sold a couple on leasebacks? Are they just doing it as a way of dumping capex cost? I know MSN 1672 has the reg N379HA and is on order, but I also saw recently that ALC completed another long term lease with HA for an additional A330 to be placed/delivered Q2 2016. Is this N379HA/MSN 1672? Or is it a 23'rd A330?
http://airleasecorp.com/2015/07/22/a...iian-airlines/
http://airleasecorp.com/2015/07/22/a...iian-airlines/
Aug 10, 2015, 2:35 am
#438
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Not sure why they did the sale leasebacks, especially since it's usually done to raise cash, which HAL has plenty of right now. Perhaps the terms were more favorable than financing. HAL still owns, through financing, most of the 330 fleet though. 379 is due this fall which is #22 and #23 is the recently announced, new addition to the fleet. I'm not sure of the tail number for that one.
Aug 10, 2015, 5:57 pm
#439
Join Date: Mar 2002
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I sure hope I get one of the newer A/C from JFK in December! I'm wondering if you know if they've got a rhyme or reason for their A/C assignments?? It seems that the longer haul flights are usually done with the older(or maybe leased) A/C. I didn't look all the way into it but they could be all leased A/C on those longer flights. I would think they'd be using the newer A/C on longer hauls after a break in period for perhaps better fuel consumption rates-they have the lighter weight IFE screens for one example. Or maybe they have a power by the hour deal with RR for the engines? Or I could be all wrong and it's luck of the draw. Any insight would be appreciated for this Avgeek!
Aug 10, 2015, 6:03 pm
#440
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Really, it will be the luck of the draw for you. There is no apparent rhyme or reason to the guest, but tail routing is usually done on the basis of maintenance needs. You're no more likely to get an older plane on a short route than you would a newer one on a long route. They all share the same configuration and all fly the entire network. There would be subtle differences between the newer and older, but none will affect your experience. Enjoy your flight.
Aug 10, 2015, 6:45 pm
#441
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Oh I most certainly will! Love their nonstop service from NY. One plane and into HNL with plenty of time to get an umbrella drink in my hand and watch the sunset! I'll hope to talk to you again when 379 enters the fleet. I took a look today-HA has a bunch of N numbers reserved but I don't know if they're older or newer N numbers that they're keeping on file. Some were like 284HA and up. It'll be interesting to see what they do there as well as what the names will be!
What will be interesting is to see what registration the 23rd 330 gets. It's kind of strange how the numbering went... they started with 380 and went to 399 skipping 387,394,397 and 398. Then they went to 370-379 skipping 371,372,376 and 377.
Aug 11, 2015, 3:59 pm
#442
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I believe the 2xxHA series are being reserved for the 321neo's. Lots of activity at the moment surrounding that new fleet and I'm sure they'll announce the 321neo concept as they put the final plans into place.
What will be interesting is to see what registration the 23rd 330 gets. It's kind of strange how the numbering went... they started with 380 and went to 399 skipping 387,394,397 and 398. Then they went to 370-379 skipping 371,372,376 and 377.
What will be interesting is to see what registration the 23rd 330 gets. It's kind of strange how the numbering went... they started with 380 and went to 399 skipping 387,394,397 and 398. Then they went to 370-379 skipping 371,372,376 and 377.
So unless HA can either persuade(or pay) the FAA to grant them those N numbers for fleet continuity or they pay the folks with the N numbers they want to re-register say N377HA or N376HA(a Piper reg'd in KY) they're up the proverbial creek. So I'm def interested in seeing what they'll do for #23!
Aug 16, 2015, 11:12 am
#443
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Does anyone by chance know if the armrest against the window in either row 11 EC seat on the A330 from JFK-HNL goes up? I like the idea of all the extra legroom because I am 6'5, but for width purposes would also love to be able to put up that arm rest against the window. Thanks for any help.
Aug 17, 2015, 8:29 am
#444
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Does anyone by chance know if the armrest against the window in either row 11 EC seat on the A330 from JFK-HNL goes up? I like the idea of all the extra legroom because I am 6'5, but for width purposes would also love to be able to put up that arm rest against the window. Thanks for any help.
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Aug 19, 2015, 12:42 pm
#445
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Does anyone by chance know if the armrest against the window in either row 11 EC seat on the A330 from JFK-HNL goes up? I like the idea of all the extra legroom because I am 6'5, but for width purposes would also love to be able to put up that arm rest against the window. Thanks for any help.
Aug 27, 2015, 8:39 am
#446
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 595
HA Airbus A330-200 (332)
I could use some expert advice with selecting Economy Extra Comfort Seats for our OGG-JFK flight, reviews are mixed on seat guru and I'm torn between remaining seats 11H/G, 34A/B, 34H/J or 11D/E 
Aug 28, 2015, 1:43 am
#447
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Aug 28, 2015, 4:03 am
#448
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11 H/G (double aisle) or 34HJ for sure. 11 will have the most room but I've seen videos of 34 and it's not that bad! When did they start JFK-OGG?? Or are you going JFK-HNL HNL-OGG?
Aug 28, 2015, 9:14 am
#449
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Thanks guys I booked the 11 H/G (double aisle).
Yes, 1.5hr layover...OGG-HNL-JFK. I reckon they should start a OGG-JFK non stop route 
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Aug 30, 2015, 2:21 pm
#450
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On another note, in dealing with HA today, a family member of mine noticed the itinerary for our December JFK-HNL trip has changed, adding about an hour onto the flight. I'm curious to see if they're slowing the plane, padding the schedule or just plain need the time!
Our previous schedule was:
Depart JFK-10:00
Arrive HNL-15:55 (last time it was ~1545 on the gate) flight time of 10:55
(In practice on flightaware it seems to be roughly 10:30-10:45 at the most)
Today on the app and the new confirmation it reads:
Depart JFK- 10:00a
Arrive HNL- 4:20p
Flight time 11:20! I hope they're just padding or maybe it's a time difference thing since HST is 5 hours behind in the winter!