Delays on HA 36 HNL-PHX
Oct 29, 2012, 7:08 pm
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Oct 29, 2012, 7:09 pm
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Could you care to decipher what you posted, it means nothing to me.
I think you are right about the diversion not being mechanical. The flight was in LA for a little more than 1 hour.
PHX 800A 05
HNL 27 1130A
4PHX/OUT 0758 OFF 0813 *1013*HDQHXZ
2HNL/ETA 1455 *1429*HDQHXZ
5LAX/ETD 1100 - PSVC *1206*HDQHXZ
2LAX/IN 1107 *1307*HDQHXZ
3LAX/ETD 1145 - ATBPAXCAUS *1325*HDQHXZ
4LAX/OUT 1215 OFF 1228 *1429*HDQHXZ
PHX 800A 05
HNL 27 1130A
4PHX/OUT 0758 OFF 0813 *1013*HDQHXZ
2HNL/ETA 1455 *1429*HDQHXZ
5LAX/ETD 1100 - PSVC *1206*HDQHXZ
2LAX/IN 1107 *1307*HDQHXZ
3LAX/ETD 1145 - ATBPAXCAUS *1325*HDQHXZ
4LAX/OUT 1215 OFF 1228 *1429*HDQHXZ
Oct 29, 2012, 8:38 pm
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Flight nurse -
I realize what the thread is about. I just think it's silly that every time there's an issue with flight 36/35 someone comes and updates the thread to alert the world about some irregular operation. I guess I fail to the see the point of it all. Every airline has operational issues from time to time and focusing on one flight is a blurry way to view an airline and its operation. Yes, HA36 often takes the brunt of any operational irregularities, but the issue is far more complicated than it seems. It's all apart of running an airline. A quick peek at flightstats.com will show you that your claim that the flight leaves late 70% of the time is false.
The cryptic looking information posted by "HNL" regarding todays flight 35 are the flight times for the flight today. The main take away from those stats show the flight spent minimal time on the ground in LAX, at just over an hour. This makes a strong case for the flight having diverted for a medical issue, as opposed to a mechanical issue.
I realize what the thread is about. I just think it's silly that every time there's an issue with flight 36/35 someone comes and updates the thread to alert the world about some irregular operation. I guess I fail to the see the point of it all. Every airline has operational issues from time to time and focusing on one flight is a blurry way to view an airline and its operation. Yes, HA36 often takes the brunt of any operational irregularities, but the issue is far more complicated than it seems. It's all apart of running an airline. A quick peek at flightstats.com will show you that your claim that the flight leaves late 70% of the time is false.
The cryptic looking information posted by "HNL" regarding todays flight 35 are the flight times for the flight today. The main take away from those stats show the flight spent minimal time on the ground in LAX, at just over an hour. This makes a strong case for the flight having diverted for a medical issue, as opposed to a mechanical issue.
Oct 30, 2012, 2:34 am
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If for some reason you thought I was implying that the issue today had to do with a mechanical issue, you miss read my post. I was not aware of the issue with the flight until I posted. However, when it comes to Hawaiian 36 the delays in HNL have kept me and others from flying on Hawaiian.
Flight nurse -
I realize what the thread is about. I just think it's silly that every time there's an issue with flight 36/35 someone comes and updates the thread to alert the world about some irregular operation. I guess I fail to the see the point of it all. Every airline has operational issues from time to time and focusing on one flight is a blurry way to view an airline and its operation. Yes, HA36 often takes the brunt of any operational irregularities, but the issue is far more complicated than it seems. It's all apart of running an airline. A quick peek at flightstats.com will show you that your claim that the flight leaves late 70% of the time is false.
The cryptic looking information posted by "HNL" regarding todays flight 35 are the flight times for the flight today. The main take away from those stats show the flight spent minimal time on the ground in LAX, at just over an hour. This makes a strong case for the flight having diverted for a medical issue, as opposed to a mechanical issue.
I realize what the thread is about. I just think it's silly that every time there's an issue with flight 36/35 someone comes and updates the thread to alert the world about some irregular operation. I guess I fail to the see the point of it all. Every airline has operational issues from time to time and focusing on one flight is a blurry way to view an airline and its operation. Yes, HA36 often takes the brunt of any operational irregularities, but the issue is far more complicated than it seems. It's all apart of running an airline. A quick peek at flightstats.com will show you that your claim that the flight leaves late 70% of the time is false.
The cryptic looking information posted by "HNL" regarding todays flight 35 are the flight times for the flight today. The main take away from those stats show the flight spent minimal time on the ground in LAX, at just over an hour. This makes a strong case for the flight having diverted for a medical issue, as opposed to a mechanical issue.
Oct 30, 2012, 12:46 pm
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Oct 30, 2012, 2:37 pm
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I think we (particularly those of us who live in PHX) have a right to vent about this particular flight. If you read the posts in this forum, you will see that the HNL-PHX flight is the last mainland 763 flight of the afternoon. Therefore, if there is a mechanical on any earlier 763 flight, HA "steals" the aircraft for this flight. When this happens, the HNL-PHX flight often becomes a redeye, thereby delaying passengers 7 to 8 hours in the beautiful HNL terminal.
That said, based on the cryptic FLIFO information posted above, the reason for the diversion is PSVC (which means Passenger Service). This could mean anything from a medical situation to a disruptive passenger to "we have 50 empty seats on this plane and there are 50 extra passengers in LAX because of Hurricane Sandy".
That said, based on the cryptic FLIFO information posted above, the reason for the diversion is PSVC (which means Passenger Service). This could mean anything from a medical situation to a disruptive passenger to "we have 50 empty seats on this plane and there are 50 extra passengers in LAX because of Hurricane Sandy".
Oct 30, 2012, 3:31 pm
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It is not worth it, some people just do not understand..
I think we (particularly those of us who live in PHX) have a right to vent about this particular flight. If you read the posts in this forum, you will see that the HNL-PHX flight is the last mainland 763 flight of the afternoon. Therefore, if there is a mechanical on any earlier 763 flight, HA "steals" the aircraft for this flight. When this happens, the HNL-PHX flight often becomes a redeye, thereby delaying passengers 7 to 8 hours in the beautiful HNL terminal.
That said, based on the cryptic FLIFO information posted above, the reason for the diversion is PSVC (which means Passenger Service). This could mean anything from a medical situation to a disruptive passenger to "we have 50 empty seats on this plane and there are 50 extra passengers in LAX because of Hurricane Sandy".
That said, based on the cryptic FLIFO information posted above, the reason for the diversion is PSVC (which means Passenger Service). This could mean anything from a medical situation to a disruptive passenger to "we have 50 empty seats on this plane and there are 50 extra passengers in LAX because of Hurricane Sandy".
Oct 30, 2012, 7:22 pm
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Anyway, it's easy enough to just not read it, isn't it?
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Oct 31, 2012, 12:30 am
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Another point is that, for longer-range flights, HA simply doesn't operate many flights. It might be ridiculous to discuss delays of a single flight on, say, American Airlines. However, HA 35/36 might represent 5% or more of the total mainland flights on a given day. Most airlines try not to delay the same flight over and over again for customer service reasons. HA seems to choose 35/36 for a major delay, if needed.
If FlightNurse, myself, and a few others like to discuss this, then I think it's worth it! ^
(I promise that I won't read the 50th post on whether IslandAir allows two bags of 35.7 lbs each
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If FlightNurse, myself, and a few others like to discuss this, then I think it's worth it! ^
(I promise that I won't read the 50th post on whether IslandAir allows two bags of 35.7 lbs each
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Nov 22, 2012, 1:00 pm
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HA36 HNL-PHX departed HNL around 1040pm last night (Wed 11/21) and today (Thurs 11/22) it appears same flight HA36 is delayed again estimate 10pm departure from HNL. Actually yesterday and into today some HA trans-pacific flights experienced lengthy delays (e.g. PHXHNL 12 hour delay, PDXHNL, 15 hour delay HNLKIX 9 hour delay, HNLSMF, HNLLAX, etc just to name a few).
Nov 23, 2012, 6:19 pm
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Nov 23, 2012, 10:25 pm
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Nov 25, 2012, 10:04 pm
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Nov 25, 2012, 10:29 pm
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When does the 772 with 3 class service start and what is the flight #?