Peru
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THanks for the replies. Looks like Lima doesn't have decent/safe public transit.
Do they have something like citibikes? I love to bike and it looks like it's a very bikeable city. Also no issues with walking, I can easily walk 10 miles or more in a day when travelling.
I'm open to eating anything but seafood and prefer more casual dining since I will be carrying on and don't want to pack anything other than jeans and casual clothes.
The night watershow looks really cool and I see some tour companies will do a hotel pickup.
Do they have something like citibikes? I love to bike and it looks like it's a very bikeable city. Also no issues with walking, I can easily walk 10 miles or more in a day when travelling.
I'm open to eating anything but seafood and prefer more casual dining since I will be carrying on and don't want to pack anything other than jeans and casual clothes.
The night watershow looks really cool and I see some tour companies will do a hotel pickup.
#17
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Get ceviche (and anything else) at La Mar in Miraflores. It was a-MAY-zing.
If you want a real fine dining experience, try to get a table (lunch or dinner) at Central. Probably my favorite restaurant experience of all time.
We went to Peru about a year ago and found it eminently forgettable, But the food was uniformly great.
Oh, as for getting around: we used Uber a fair amount. Even though the drivers didn't really speak English, it was easy enough since you can enter your destination in the Uber app. It was also surprisingly cheap. It helped that I spoke a little Spanish.
In general, outside of Miraflores and the adjacent, up-and-coming neighborhood whose name I can't remember, Lima felt somewhat unsafe. Maybe it was all the high walls topped with electric fences or razor wire.
If you want a real fine dining experience, try to get a table (lunch or dinner) at Central. Probably my favorite restaurant experience of all time.
We went to Peru about a year ago and found it eminently forgettable, But the food was uniformly great.
Oh, as for getting around: we used Uber a fair amount. Even though the drivers didn't really speak English, it was easy enough since you can enter your destination in the Uber app. It was also surprisingly cheap. It helped that I spoke a little Spanish.
In general, outside of Miraflores and the adjacent, up-and-coming neighborhood whose name I can't remember, Lima felt somewhat unsafe. Maybe it was all the high walls topped with electric fences or razor wire.
Lima, very possibly.
Peru, in general, I don't think so. There are infinite wonders outside of Lima. I don't think Cuzco or Machu Pichu are forgettable by any means, as millions of tourists can attest to.
#18
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THanks for the replies. Looks like Lima doesn't have decent/safe public transit.
Do they have something like citibikes? I love to bike and it looks like it's a very bikeable city. Also no issues with walking, I can easily walk 10 miles or more in a day when travelling.
I'm open to eating anything but seafood and prefer more casual dining since I will be carrying on and don't want to pack anything other than jeans and casual clothes.
The night watershow looks really cool and I see some tour companies will do a hotel pickup.
Do they have something like citibikes? I love to bike and it looks like it's a very bikeable city. Also no issues with walking, I can easily walk 10 miles or more in a day when travelling.
I'm open to eating anything but seafood and prefer more casual dining since I will be carrying on and don't want to pack anything other than jeans and casual clothes.
The night watershow looks really cool and I see some tour companies will do a hotel pickup.
However, I strongly advice against riding your bike in the city.
Drivers are probably among the worst in the world, they will run you over, you are risking a trip to the hospital or being yelled at, to say the least.
Maybe if you just stay on the sidewalks, but again, you will have to avoid the pedestrians on the street.
Public transportation is improving but it is still bad and routes are not published or easily found so you can plan your way around. Routes are hard to figure out for a tourist/foreigner.
Your best bet is walking, if staying within Miraflores.
Too bad you don't like seafood, since there are plenty of choices for that.
In addition to the cafes around Parque Kennedy (La Tiendecita Blanca, Haiti), try walking all the way to LarcoMar and get an ocean view table at one of the cafes there (Mangos, Cafe Cafe, etc). They are very casual and food is decent.
If you have time, go to Barranco (the district just right next to Miraflores) and walk around the main plaza, or down the "Puente de los Suspiros". There is some nice architecture and some quaint restaurants or cafes. It is just a few minutes from Miraflores.
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Anyone have some more recent experience / insight to offer? Headed to Peru in a couple weeks or a tourist whirlwind - Lia- Cuzco- Ollantaytambo/MP in a week. Appreciate any info.
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If you need to get around Lima I'd recommend using Taxi green from LIM and uber back to the airport and using Uber all other times over a taxi unless your Spanish is really good. The Cab drivers want you to negotiate the fare before they'll take you and you don't have to deal with that with Uber.
Something else to keep in mind if you have an Iphone is Apple Maps doesn't work in Peru so make sure you have google maps app on your phone.
#21
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I was born in Lima and lived there until my early 20s, I go back once a year to visit family.
I have used Uber with no issues, but there are other times when it has not been reliable (consecutive cancelled trips, driver driving away, driver refused to take me to destination for no reason, etc).
Uber works but it can be unreliable.
My friends have similar experience. They also use the app "Taxi Beat" (which can also be hit or miss).
For a tourist, I would advice against the need of having to take a cab or Uber.
Better stick to organized tours or walk if possible. (As discussed before, Miraflores is very walkable).
For airport transfer, I recommend pre-arranging a car service or taxi through the hotel. Yes, it is more expensive but it is worth minimizing risks.
I particularly advice against Uber to go to the airport. Most of the times it will work fine but (you know Murphy's law) it might be not your day and stress will start creeping up on you when drivers cancel or don't show up and you have to catch a flight.
As far as "any updates"? It is a very vague and broad question. Everything is the same. Cuzco. Machupichu and surroundings seem to get more crowded year after year. Nothing that can be done about that other than expect those crowds.
I have used Uber with no issues, but there are other times when it has not been reliable (consecutive cancelled trips, driver driving away, driver refused to take me to destination for no reason, etc).
Uber works but it can be unreliable.
My friends have similar experience. They also use the app "Taxi Beat" (which can also be hit or miss).
For a tourist, I would advice against the need of having to take a cab or Uber.
Better stick to organized tours or walk if possible. (As discussed before, Miraflores is very walkable).
For airport transfer, I recommend pre-arranging a car service or taxi through the hotel. Yes, it is more expensive but it is worth minimizing risks.
I particularly advice against Uber to go to the airport. Most of the times it will work fine but (you know Murphy's law) it might be not your day and stress will start creeping up on you when drivers cancel or don't show up and you have to catch a flight.
As far as "any updates"? It is a very vague and broad question. Everything is the same. Cuzco. Machupichu and surroundings seem to get more crowded year after year. Nothing that can be done about that other than expect those crowds.
#22
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One piece of advice. Id recommend spending the first part of your trip in the Andes in Ollantaybambo, not Cuzco. Ollan is several thousand feet lower than Cuzco so it will help you acclimate. It is also where many people pick up the train to Machu Picchu.
I did the trip last year.
Other notes. Uber is useless in Cuzco. Dont bother with it. Theres a decent gay bar/restaurant in Cuzco called fallen angel.
Machu Picchu is all that, but so is the Sacred Valley.
I did the trip last year.
Other notes. Uber is useless in Cuzco. Dont bother with it. Theres a decent gay bar/restaurant in Cuzco called fallen angel.
Machu Picchu is all that, but so is the Sacred Valley.
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Thanks, guys, for the info. Now back and it was a great trip. Flew in and out of Lima. Did not have time for a gradual ascent, took acetazolamide (Diamox) per CDC recommendation, drank lots of coca tea at altitude and added local pharmacy soroche pills (aspirin, caffeine and something metabolized to acetaminophen) and did OK. Occasional shortness of breath climbing but no other issues. With a compressed timeframe I had to forgo some things, but with good planning managed to do Lima-Cuzco-Ollytatambo-Auguas Calientes-Machu Picchu. All logistics were handled by a great guy in Lima who arranged absolutely everything from arrival through departure. He has team members around the country who provided excellent service. His business is not exclusively gay but decidedly caters to that market.segment.
Gave Fallen Angel a miss in Cuzco, headed instead to a great restaurant, Incanto which merited a second visit on the way back.
Visited the thermal baths in Auguas Calienetes, quite a letdown after the uphill trek to get there . Was hoping for actual hot springs but max temp was 97F. Good sized crowd on a Saturday night, mostly locals and several families. Spotted what loked like a few gay couples but no active (or at least apparent) cruising.
So, guess my overall failure to explore the gay scene pretty much solidifies my status as an old fart! I did, however, indulge in some steamy eye contact while walking along the malecón so there may still be hope.
Gave Fallen Angel a miss in Cuzco, headed instead to a great restaurant, Incanto which merited a second visit on the way back.
Visited the thermal baths in Auguas Calienetes, quite a letdown after the uphill trek to get there . Was hoping for actual hot springs but max temp was 97F. Good sized crowd on a Saturday night, mostly locals and several families. Spotted what loked like a few gay couples but no active (or at least apparent) cruising.
So, guess my overall failure to explore the gay scene pretty much solidifies my status as an old fart! I did, however, indulge in some steamy eye contact while walking along the malecón so there may still be hope.
#24
Join Date: May 2019
Location: lima - Perú
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Learn: surf, ceviche and pisco sour! - Lima experience
Hi everyone!
Perú is a really beautiful destination and people are really friendly, we have Cusco, Arequipa, Ayacucho, and other wonderful places.
Lima is not to left behind, its really nice city to get to know.
if you are coming to Lima - Perú or have a free day when coming to Perú, please join my experience where i teach you, after a surf class, how to make ceviche and pisco sours ...at the end i´ll sing for you and send all the pictures i took during the experience.
if you want to make a reservation write me a message so i can give you the airbnb link!
good day!
Perú is a really beautiful destination and people are really friendly, we have Cusco, Arequipa, Ayacucho, and other wonderful places.
Lima is not to left behind, its really nice city to get to know.
if you are coming to Lima - Perú or have a free day when coming to Perú, please join my experience where i teach you, after a surf class, how to make ceviche and pisco sours ...at the end i´ll sing for you and send all the pictures i took during the experience.
if you want to make a reservation write me a message so i can give you the airbnb link!
good day!