Free Offers: How Much Gaming Time is Required?
#1
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Free Offers: How Much Gaming Time is Required?
As a blackjack and craps player I've made probably eight trips to Vegas a year for the past few years. In that time I've received and used free hotel/food offers from Harrah's, Venetian, Wynn, etc. etc. I now want to use an offer but not spend as much time at the tables as I've done in the past.
Two questions for you:
1. As a $100 per hand/roll player, If I'm offered a free weekend hotel room, how much gaming time per day is expected of me before the casinos would get out of joint? Let's assume I don't simply lose a huge bundle right away, in which case I'm sure no questions would be asked.
2. In the event they consider me to not be gambling enough, do the hotels have recourse to charge me for the "free" hotel they offer? Or will they simply shut me off from future free offers?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Two questions for you:
1. As a $100 per hand/roll player, If I'm offered a free weekend hotel room, how much gaming time per day is expected of me before the casinos would get out of joint? Let's assume I don't simply lose a huge bundle right away, in which case I'm sure no questions would be asked.
2. In the event they consider me to not be gambling enough, do the hotels have recourse to charge me for the "free" hotel they offer? Or will they simply shut me off from future free offers?
Thanks for your thoughts.
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#5
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All my offers from Venetian/Palazzo come with disclaimers stating that the offer is dependent upon maintaining my historic level of play.
For kicks, I called the marketing depts. and hosts of both V/Palazzo and the MGM properties, asking what would happen if, theoretically, I came in on an offer and gambled nothing. The universal answer was that I would NOT be charged for the stay, but that my future offers would be affected.
YMMV, however. The above answers were received only after having generously "donating" a significant amount of money to the casinos on prior trips. I have a feeling that the answer would remain the same for anyone, though.
For kicks, I called the marketing depts. and hosts of both V/Palazzo and the MGM properties, asking what would happen if, theoretically, I came in on an offer and gambled nothing. The universal answer was that I would NOT be charged for the stay, but that my future offers would be affected.
YMMV, however. The above answers were received only after having generously "donating" a significant amount of money to the casinos on prior trips. I have a feeling that the answer would remain the same for anyone, though.
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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As a blackjack and craps player I've made probably eight trips to Vegas a year for the past few years. In that time I've received and used free hotel/food offers from Harrah's, Venetian, Wynn, etc. etc. I now want to use an offer but not spend as much time at the tables as I've done in the past.
Two questions for you:
1. As a $100 per hand/roll player, If I'm offered a free weekend hotel room, how much gaming time per day is expected of me before the casinos would get out of joint? Let's assume I don't simply lose a huge bundle right away, in which case I'm sure no questions would be asked.
2. In the event they consider me to not be gambling enough, do the hotels have recourse to charge me for the "free" hotel they offer? Or will they simply shut me off from future free offers?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Two questions for you:
1. As a $100 per hand/roll player, If I'm offered a free weekend hotel room, how much gaming time per day is expected of me before the casinos would get out of joint? Let's assume I don't simply lose a huge bundle right away, in which case I'm sure no questions would be asked.
2. In the event they consider me to not be gambling enough, do the hotels have recourse to charge me for the "free" hotel they offer? Or will they simply shut me off from future free offers?
Thanks for your thoughts.
1. Whatever your historic level of play is. You could call your host or player's club desk to look it up. But see my post above, and the answer below.
2. I don't believe so. See my earlier post. I'd call the marketing department and just ask them straight up.
Mostly, just go and have fun, and nevermind what your rating is. As soon as I stopped worrying about that stuff, I had 5000% more fun, and the offers keep coming anyway. You know what they say: don't play for comps, etc. These days, I go with the expressed intent of taking advantage of whatever the properties have to offer.
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If you play enough, often enough, you might be able to use a comp room offer without being penalized. This is more likely to be true if you play at a property occasionally without staying there. If they ask, and they probably won't, tell them you had really bad luck and dropped your entire wad the first afternoon of your stay.
YMMV. They will be much more greatly peeved if the stay is on a busy weekend as opposed to a slack period such as a weekday in December or July.
YMMV. They will be much more greatly peeved if the stay is on a busy weekend as opposed to a slack period such as a weekday in December or July.
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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The expectation is that you play 4 hours a day at your historical average bet. If you don't hit your obligation the risk of revoking the comp is low especially if you've actually put in some gaming time, although they often fine print the right to void.
The offers are based on your historical play so you will obviously lower you average with no play and will more than likely decrease the value of future offers.
The offers are based on your historical play so you will obviously lower you average with no play and will more than likely decrease the value of future offers.