coplatua1k

Thank you very much....Not asking for a match believe it or not. I'll have over 25K by September or so. Paying for the stretch seating for now, I have been paying extra to UA for years to keep the hub, not that it got us anywhere. This time around I'll pay a lil extra to F9 in hopes of supporting the new service in CLE and hopefully getting more.

coplatua1k

DFW and LAS as well. TOTAL overlaps of UA who will retreat.

rtalk25

I wonder if it'll do CLE-California. LAX and SFO are United hubs, but maybe it'd consider CLE-SNA as F9 has an SNA airport presence and this wouldn't be a direct challenge to a UA hub, LAX with mainline to CLE.

It might get a slot if SNA awards it because it's new city, or it'd use a DEN-SNA slot, as 4x daily DEN-SNA likely is connection reliant anyways.

N830MH

Let the bloodbath begin!!!

Go get'em!!

15bachman

Im really hoping to see all service be expanded to daily. Only then can they see the true possibilities of a CLE focus city.

15bachman

I feel like if they keep overlapping current UA routes, UA will begin to pick off mainline, and F9 replace em'. Look at PHX. Dropped by UA, Added by AAL and F9, and im anxious to see if Southwest decides to spare a plane or two and grow CLE, but I have my doubts, they inherited a nice operations base at CAK and are growing that. I want someone to replace MCI, I used it a ton. If SW would come in and (heres my christmas list ;P )

MSP (hoping delta starts mainline)
STL
MCI
DAL
HOU
PHX (eh, why not 3rd carriers a charm)

One thing i'll miss is the regional flights. We wont get them back unless a new hub is formed... not going to happen.

buckeyefanflyer

I am at present not a fan of Frontier. They have absolutely no history here where UA has had a nice presence here even going back to the 1960's.
They did pull most routes in 1986 at the first hub closure and then CO picked up many routes. I would prefer WN expanded.
I would keep an eye at the UA schedules once the hub cuts are final in June to see if UA cuts more flights.

davywavy

Assuming CLE keeps booking the way it is I think it is inevitable that Frontier will add CLE-LAX - but possibly not until the spring.

Maybe CLE-SFO, but Im not quite so sure about that. CLE-SAN - summer seasonal?

I think CLE-SNA is a great idea, but I'm not sure the A319 can make it, fully laden, from the SNA runway. Maybe wait till the A319Neo?

N830MH

I was hoping CLE-UST/FLL. I hope that they will considering.

davywavy

Frontier's CLE-FLL starts in June.

I agree about CLE-UST, though.

Indelaware

Very unlikely to see WN expansion at CLE. They simply do not have enough aircraft. Of the cities you suggest, IMO, STL is the only possible one - and a distant one for that for WN.

I doubt DL will put mainline on MSP - although there would certainly be room for SY to move into the market.

It would not be crazy for DL to upgrade CLE-DTW to mainline (simply defer retirement of a MD88) as part of an aggressive attempt to garnish customers away from UA. If only their FF plan wasn't horrid.

rtalk25

UST is nice but one can the visit St. Augustine destination area through MCO. It's not too far of a drive, especially combined with some Orlando destination visiting. UST is a more convenient. But with the MCO proximity factor, and likely limits on fleet, I'm going to guess UST just gets access to another major city like Chicago (MDW) before CLE and CLE gets maybe another destination somewhere farther away from an existing destination. But that's my guess. I'd just like to see Southwest challenged with another carrier flying from MDW to the Sunshine state and UST would be a passive way that Southwest likely wouldn't feel compelled to do anything since it's an in between airport of MCO and JAX, but it'd know it's being challenged on that convenience for MDW for downtown residents seeking a Florida getaway.

rtalk25

It is always able to shift aircraft around though.

Indelaware

True, but WN is already shifting aircraft around to build operations ex-DAL.

15bachman

take a look at post hub PIT. Delta swoops in and adds mainline to nearly every hub, from LGA to JFK, MSP, DTW, heck they took a shot at CDG and made it work at Frontier like frequency. I agree, DTW is far fetched, but Im sticking to it about MSP. NE Ohio has nothing but RJ, and low frequency RJ to MSP. Closest mainline is PIT. As the 3rd biggest hub (MSP), and UA dropping flights to MSP all together, I think they could make it work. Will it happen? time will tell, just my opinion. Im a St Paul native so id like to be able to fly home on something other than a CRJ, maybe thats why im so for it.