F9 to start ABE/MDT-MCO
#1
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F9 to start ABE/MDT-MCO
Could MCO be getting a larger dot soon?
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehi...join_lehi.html
2x weekly ABE-MCO service.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehi...join_lehi.html
2x weekly ABE-MCO service.
#2
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Could MCO be getting a larger dot soon?
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehi...join_lehi.html
2x weekly ABE-MCO service.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehi...join_lehi.html
2x weekly ABE-MCO service.
#3
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Here's the schedule for ABE:
Looks like Saturday and Tuesday, plane rotates up from MCO:
MCO-ABE
0831-1058
ABE-MCO
1140-1400
I wouldn't be surprised if they were the MDT-MCO carrier as well, but MDT hasn't been added to the route map yet so its anyone's guess. In the past I don't think they've had more than one route map update in the same day but it could happen.
EDIT:
Looks like they'll be flying MDT-MCO with the same schedule (well close) but on Thu, Fri, Sun. Similar to the DSM/OMA service expansion in the past. Hope it works out!
Wonder if they'll announce anything for this time slot Monday and Wednesday? (I doubt it, but who knows!)
Looks like Saturday and Tuesday, plane rotates up from MCO:
MCO-ABE
0831-1058
ABE-MCO
1140-1400
I wouldn't be surprised if they were the MDT-MCO carrier as well, but MDT hasn't been added to the route map yet so its anyone's guess. In the past I don't think they've had more than one route map update in the same day but it could happen.
EDIT:
Looks like they'll be flying MDT-MCO with the same schedule (well close) but on Thu, Fri, Sun. Similar to the DSM/OMA service expansion in the past. Hope it works out!
Wonder if they'll announce anything for this time slot Monday and Wednesday? (I doubt it, but who knows!)
Last edited by MikeFromMKE; Feb 28, 2012 at 11:01 am
#4
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They're basically picking up routes that did (seemingly) well for AirTran but that don't fit with the SWA business model. At MDT there will be a couple of month's overlap between the two carrier's serving MCO but Frontier gets the route to itself starting in August.
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...l_keep_no.html
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...l_keep_no.html
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Interestingly, F9 is planning only 4x weekly flights from MDT-MCO while FL is doing twice daily. Wonder if they'll ramp up to at least daily when FL formally exits the market. Loads on the MDT-MCO flights were averaging above 85%.
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but on Tuesday, it's the same aircraft doing both routes, and I would expect/hope them to go daily when airtran leaves, and build up to 2x hopefully. This summer should bring some good deals to MCO for MDT passengers. I always hear about how full this route is.
#9
Join Date: Jun 2009
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SW will be ceasing MCO-FLL. I was thinking if F9 might be interested, and how it could relate to MDT and ABE.
For ABE, offer ABE-FLL-MCO, and at MDT: MDT-MCO-FLL. Each would operate daily. MDT and ABE aren't that far apart from each other, and have some common catchment, so this catchment would essentially gain and benefit with a daily nonstop to both Florida regions.
I listed ABE-FLL since ABE could be used as an alternate airport for those from Northern NJ (NY market) where S. Florida is the top domestic destination. ABE suffers leakage from EWR, but isn't able to capture anything in reverse, so maybe this would help. The Lehigh Valley is the fastest growing MSA in PA with population increases in the Hispanic population and areas that are growing with ex NYers.
For MDT, MCO would probably be a better fit, as for most in Central PA, there is no major airport besides driving to PHL or BWI which could be over 1 1/2 hrs. away
But a continuing flight from both cities would cover both regions in Florida, and for the Central PA catchment, it would be better than flying US and changing planes in CLT, or another carrier and changing planes elsewhere.
Routing: MCO-FLL-ABE-FLL-MCO and FLL-MCO-MDT-MCO-FLL permitting day trips for the business traveler between FLL and MCO.
For ABE, offer ABE-FLL-MCO, and at MDT: MDT-MCO-FLL. Each would operate daily. MDT and ABE aren't that far apart from each other, and have some common catchment, so this catchment would essentially gain and benefit with a daily nonstop to both Florida regions.
I listed ABE-FLL since ABE could be used as an alternate airport for those from Northern NJ (NY market) where S. Florida is the top domestic destination. ABE suffers leakage from EWR, but isn't able to capture anything in reverse, so maybe this would help. The Lehigh Valley is the fastest growing MSA in PA with population increases in the Hispanic population and areas that are growing with ex NYers.
For MDT, MCO would probably be a better fit, as for most in Central PA, there is no major airport besides driving to PHL or BWI which could be over 1 1/2 hrs. away
But a continuing flight from both cities would cover both regions in Florida, and for the Central PA catchment, it would be better than flying US and changing planes in CLT, or another carrier and changing planes elsewhere.
Routing: MCO-FLL-ABE-FLL-MCO and FLL-MCO-MDT-MCO-FLL permitting day trips for the business traveler between FLL and MCO.
Last edited by rtalk25; Jul 9, 2012 at 8:23 pm
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But a continuing flight from both cities would cover both regions in Florida, and for the Central PA catchment, it would be better than flying US and changing planes in CLT, or another carrier and changing planes elsewhere.
Routing: MCO-FLL-ABE-FLL-MCO and FLL-MCO-MDT-MCO-FLL permitting day trips for the business traveler between FLL and MCO.
Routing: MCO-FLL-ABE-FLL-MCO and FLL-MCO-MDT-MCO-FLL permitting day trips for the business traveler between FLL and MCO.
Not to rain on your parade. I think if F9 continues to grow at MCO I think that we may see some connecting opportunities further south at some point.