The new rule book is here! The new rule book is here! [merged]

[KL803]

- Reduced mileage earning on most economy fares - only B and S earn 100%, others are on a 25-50-75 scale

probably the worst change. By the way, here's the link to the new T&C: click on "New terms and conditions effective as of April 2009" in the upper right part of the page, it opens a PDF-file.

[nomad1974]

Are they really serious about this?! Honestly?!

[graraps]

Originally Posted by KL803

probably the worst change. By the way, here's the link to the new T&C: click on "New terms and conditions effective as of April 2009" in the upper right part of the page, it opens a PDF-file.

Crap! What have they been drinking?

That miles reduction stinks. I hope OK keep the current earning structure at least for their own flights...some detours and inconvenient connections will be a price I'll gladly pay to save my miles.

[robin.goodman]

Originally Posted by ranskis

it is published on FB website now, including this:



J classic award will require 2 times the miles of a Y classic award... it used to be 50% more.

but of course, the changes are there to reward more AF most loyal customers:



they don't reward them more, they reward them less lesser than the others!

http://www.flyingbluenews.com/news/2..._evoluent.html

LOL

[Malonda]

Originally Posted by ranskis

If however the A bucket totally disappears, it means that there is no chance to fly F reasonable ( = without paying for F).

I am afraid there is no 'if'... The A bucket does disappear on Oct 25th, 2009.
As of Oct 25th 2009, there will only be 2 buckets to fly La Première: P and F.

[AF 001]

This year I am supposed to reach Plat Lifetime, I asking myself now why I was pushing so hard to get this status with doing milage runs etc. ...! That's really bullsh... what they are doing is for sure not customer orientated and never an "improvement"!

Since the change from Frequence Plus to Flying Blue they shocked us every year with their "changes & improvements".

I am really scared what will ne the next one...

[neuromancer]

Well, I'll spend all my miles before 1st April and will not fly AF/KL again. Simple.
I was just waiting for the fuel surcharges to drop, but I no longer think this will happen.

[Henry III]

Originally Posted by alanw

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- Reduced mileage earning on most economy fares - only B and S earn 100%, others are on a 25-50-75 scale

Changes effective 1 April

This is indeed horrible ... if true! Can you say where you found this information?

-- Henry

[NickB]

Originally Posted by GK

no changes to thresholds yet though ?

Well, diminished earnings is tantamount to changing the thresholds: you will need to fly more or fly at higher fares to achieve elite level.

[michelw]

http://www.flyingblue-info.com/uk/cumul.html#ancre4

On AF long haul, K Class is the first that earns 100%. And it looks like we will no longer earn 100% on Delta.

[alanw]

Originally Posted by Henry III

This is indeed horrible ... if true! Can you say where you found this information?

-- Henry

The beta version of the new FB site, which outlines all this info (and has video interviews with Herbert and some French woman). It should be live before long, i.e., today some time.

And...here it is: http://www.flyingblue-info.com/uk/

[Dambus]

By offering miles valid for life, Flying Blue is one of the best frequent flyer programme. Miles for life is an advantage offered by very few airlines.

On most major carriers, Miles are not valid for life. Each Mile has an expiry date that can not be extended. A Mile earned today can be used for 2 or 3 years.

Which "most" airlines would that be then? BA, BD, LH, UA, AA?????

On other carriers, you have to fly even more frequently for your Miles to remain valid.

Which "other" carriers would that be then? BA, BD, LH, UA, AA?????
(Note my careful emphasise of the flight requirement...)

Does anyone else get the sense that AF have benchmarked their FF benefits against Ryanair and Easyjet.....

[Brobbel]

http://airfrance.org.flyingblue-info.../uk/cumul.html

For more information which buckets are involved...

[goavibes]

I didn't see any info about changes on miles required for upgrades. Did I miss something or can we hope that this will at least remains at the current levels

[Roger]

Clearly, those carriers are not 'major' carriers in AFKL's eyes (and I'm not referring to FR and EZ).

Who suggests the rubbish? Who agrees it? Somebody must be accountable. Will anybody own up?

My low opinion of AFKL is reduced even further. Sad for an ex-plat FD to be reduced to this.