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Old Feb 9, 07, 6:48 pm   #1
 
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Thumbs down NEW: 90.000 miles for C to N.A.!!

Was just browsing through the new February FB-promo's on klm.com and found this little paragraph at the end of the article, the preposterous fact of the matter is that while they're raising the price, the product is diminishing in overal quality;

Revised Business Class redemption rate from Europe to North America
From 1 March 2007, the Business Class redemption rate from Europe to North America* will increase from 80,000 Award Miles to 90,000 Award Miles. The First Class redemption rate remains unchanged at 100,000 Award Miles.

(*USA, Mexico, Canada, Surinam and the Dutch Caribbean)
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Old Feb 9, 07, 7:02 pm   #2
 
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are they nuts! Can we book until 2/28 for later in the year and only pay 80k miles? 90k for C and 100k for F ... makes NO sense.

Flying Blue bad move
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Old Feb 9, 07, 8:32 pm   #3
 
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It brings them in line with Delta Skymiles and other Skyteam programs.
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Old Feb 9, 07, 8:44 pm   #4
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Was looking into AMS-CUN tonight. While the KLM Miles-lookup quoted 50.000 in Y to me, the FB online bookingsystem quoted me 75.000 (single AMS-IAH was 50.000 and single IAH-CUN 25.000)...

Whatta screwup system...
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Old Feb 10, 07, 12:36 am   #5
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I was looking for LHR-SIN in F at Easter - well the web site books me LHR-AMS-SIN for 200,000 miles but when the reservation has confirmed it booked CDG-SIN in Coach.

So I call AF and there IS F availability on both flights (what?), and they rebook me.

When they issue the ticket today it's only 160,000 miles.

Screwed system.....oh yes.
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Old Feb 10, 07, 6:36 am   #6
 
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I still hope this +12.5% increase is clearly a mistake. There is no announcement yet on AF's website but I'm afraid they will follow suit shortly.

I'm pretty sure FB is this preparing a future increase of First class awards too. Having P awards that cost only 11% more than J, how long is that sustainable?
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Old Feb 10, 07, 7:47 am   #7
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Having P awards that cost only 11% more than J, how long is that sustainable?
it confirms: P on AF is not worth much more than J

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Old Feb 10, 07, 8:54 am   #8
 
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Attempting to book CDG-LAX for March I still get 80k.
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Old Feb 10, 07, 9:45 am   #9
 
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I just looked at the US webpage and the newsletter does not have this information
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Old Feb 10, 07, 12:59 pm   #10
 
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Its sneakily put right at the bottom of the Feb news letter in small print. it does seem daft F only being 10000 miles more...but then again have yo tried getting an F ticket...
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Old Feb 10, 07, 4:22 pm   #11
 
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Its sneakily put right at the bottom of the Feb news letter in small print. it does seem daft F only being 10000 miles more...but then again have yo tried getting an F ticket...
CDG-LAX tends to have more availability in F
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Old Feb 12, 07, 1:54 am   #12
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It's been on the KL web site at least since the OP posted the information but it is not available on any of the AF country web sites. Agents at the FFP call centre in France haven't received any update yet.

It would definitely be unwelcome news.
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Old Feb 12, 07, 4:05 am   #13
 
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I got it from this link
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Old Feb 12, 07, 6:15 am   #14
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It would definitely be unwelcome news.
And it could have more unwelcome news to come : like Z class fare earning only 75% Miles
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Old Feb 12, 07, 7:42 am   #15
 
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originating in Europe to N America will go up to 90K, but will originating in North America-Europe stay at 80k??????!!!!!!!


Overall, an EXTREMELY bad way of communicating even WORSE news.
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