Easier to get better status
Nov 18, 2009, 1:00 pm
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Easier to get better status
Sorry, I don't have any detailed information. However, the editorial of the newest PlusNews (for basic status) states (by Ms Anna Korpi, Director, Customer Sales & Marketing) that you will need fewer miles to get higher status starting early next year.
Nov 18, 2009, 11:06 pm
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Some details wouldn't hurt. AY is said to be the toughest OW airline to achive status
Nov 19, 2009, 1:46 am
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http://www.digipaper.fi/plusnews/35525/
Nov 19, 2009, 2:20 am
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It also states that point tranfers between family members will become possible. You can read the magazine here (in finnish only):
http://www.digipaper.fi/plusnews/35525/
http://www.digipaper.fi/plusnews/35525/
Nov 19, 2009, 3:03 am
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Nov 19, 2009, 3:45 am
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Nov 19, 2009, 6:44 am
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Jan 5, 2010, 3:14 am
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Probably the change is due to AY having fewer elite tier members flying than before.
Remembering that AY used to have somewhat generous tier point promotions some years back when one's elite membership was about to expire (eg 2000 additional tier points per flight) and that such schemes apparently are not used these days, it is no wonder the number of elite members may be smaller than before.
In any case, I suppose this will be a good move from AY, provided that the reduction in point requirements is substantial. At least they should fix the annoying fact that requalifying to Gold takes 210 000 points over two years whereas earning it from scratch only takes 180 000 points over two years.
Now if they only would publish the details.
Remembering that AY used to have somewhat generous tier point promotions some years back when one's elite membership was about to expire (eg 2000 additional tier points per flight) and that such schemes apparently are not used these days, it is no wonder the number of elite members may be smaller than before.
In any case, I suppose this will be a good move from AY, provided that the reduction in point requirements is substantial. At least they should fix the annoying fact that requalifying to Gold takes 210 000 points over two years whereas earning it from scratch only takes 180 000 points over two years.
Now if they only would publish the details.
Jan 5, 2010, 4:03 am
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One friend explained the situation to me like this:
As Finnair has a small but export oriented home market they have had a number of "superfrequent flyers" in sales and general management positions. This has enabled them to keep the thresholds highest in the OneWorld alliance and probably of all main airlines.
Now that the European companies are suffering and cutting on biz travel Finnair has more need to get new frequent flyer customers who tend to be more demanding.
Even Cathay's MPC seems lenient compared to merciless Finnair Plus. Maybe this is about to change?
As Finnair has a small but export oriented home market they have had a number of "superfrequent flyers" in sales and general management positions. This has enabled them to keep the thresholds highest in the OneWorld alliance and probably of all main airlines.
Now that the European companies are suffering and cutting on biz travel Finnair has more need to get new frequent flyer customers who tend to be more demanding.
Even Cathay's MPC seems lenient compared to merciless Finnair Plus. Maybe this is about to change?
Jan 10, 2010, 1:02 pm
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Anyone has an update? When I talked a month ago with AY+ CS the lady had no clue when asked about the new improvements
This is my second year of AY Gold and would need another 130k points to requalify (last year went mainly requalifying for LH SEN)
I seriously consider jumping ship and join BA's FFP. One HEL-LHR-NRT r/t in C would get me to BA Silver (=AY Gold) and BA Gold (=AY Plat) would also be within reach in the following year. Credit C to BA and el-cheapo to AY
HEL-LHR-NRT r/t is not enough even for AY Silver...
(I still consider it highly ridiculous that one needs more points to RE-qualify than from starting from zero. With no elite-multiplier it means one actually should fly MORE to requalify
)
This is my second year of AY Gold and would need another 130k points to requalify (last year went mainly requalifying for LH SEN)
I seriously consider jumping ship and join BA's FFP. One HEL-LHR-NRT r/t in C would get me to BA Silver (=AY Gold) and BA Gold (=AY Plat) would also be within reach in the following year. Credit C to BA and el-cheapo to AY
HEL-LHR-NRT r/t is not enough even for AY Silver...
(I still consider it highly ridiculous that one needs more points to RE-qualify than from starting from zero. With no elite-multiplier it means one actually should fly MORE to requalify
)
Jan 18, 2010, 2:16 am
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http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/talous...=2010/01/29673
Jan 18, 2010, 3:10 am
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Sorry, link in finnish.
http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/talous...=2010/01/29673
According to Mikko Tuomainen from Finnair FF program, it looks like changes will be happening in March. "Significantly lower" is what he says about point requirements for status but nothing specific. But points will expire in three years, compared to five. You will also be able to transfer points between family members.
The news has also interesting points about how FF programs are included in accounting and how they can be useful help with fixing cashflow.
http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/talous...=2010/01/29673
According to Mikko Tuomainen from Finnair FF program, it looks like changes will be happening in March. "Significantly lower" is what he says about point requirements for status but nothing specific. But points will expire in three years, compared to five. You will also be able to transfer points between family members.
The news has also interesting points about how FF programs are included in accounting and how they can be useful help with fixing cashflow.
