New and cancelled destinations, major schedule and operational changes
#601
Join Date: May 2012
Location: GVA (HEL)
Programs: AY Plat (OWE)
Posts: 536
Haven't tried to book yet though.
#602
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,164
#603
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,055
Let's see when Finnair tells about Nanjing.
In finnish: http://valtioneuvosto.fi/artikkeli/-...nejarjestelyja
The negotiations agreed that airlines would be able to start traffic between Finland and Nanjing.
#604
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,734
Let's see when Finnair tells about Nanjing.
In finnish: http://valtioneuvosto.fi/artikkeli/-...nejarjestelyja
In finnish: http://valtioneuvosto.fi/artikkeli/-...nejarjestelyja
#605
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,055
#606
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Asia/Europe
Programs: CX, OZ, MU (+AY, DL), Shangri-La, Hilton
Posts: 7,236
Let's see when Finnair tells about Nanjing.
In finnish: http://valtioneuvosto.fi/artikkeli/-...nejarjestelyja
In finnish: http://valtioneuvosto.fi/artikkeli/-...nejarjestelyja
I personally love Nanjing, my third favourite city in China after Suzhou (Jiangsu) and Weihai (Shandong) and due to its central location a perfect gateway to other cities like Wuhan or much of Jiangsu, Zhejiang and Anhui provinces.
I do believe this could be a seasonal route similar to Xi'an. It's an important business and academic city but at the same time one of the true jewels of Chinese civilization.
Nanjing could also be an alternate destination for AY if they fail to get a second daily to and from PVG as it gradually seems.
Shanghai/Kunshan/Suzhou to Nanjngnan is all in a 50 min - 1h 15min bracket by bullet train and then another short rail connection from there to the airport.
#607
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
NKG is not a good alternative for PVG. It's not connected to railway, or at least it wasn't when I was there.
When it comes to railway connections in western China, SHA (Hongqiao) would be the best. But I guess long-haul is not allowed there?
When it comes to railway connections in western China, SHA (Hongqiao) would be the best. But I guess long-haul is not allowed there?
#608
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, SK Gold
Posts: 952
#610
Ambassador: Finnair
Join Date: May 2003
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Lumo, BA Silver, HHonors Gold
Posts: 4,267
Jakarta would never work for AY and Manila is very risky, too, unless they make it a semi-charter for winter with some tour company
#611
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 938
#612
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: lots of shiny metal cards
Posts: 14,103
But HAN and SGN would deserve a year round daily, as would CAN.
MNL might be too off the beaten track/too far for reasonable schedules, whatever. Other than these I don't really see new non-Chinese destinations for AY. (of course a HEL-DPS would be my wet dream and would blow probably all my stash on it )
#613
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Asia/Europe
Programs: CX, OZ, MU (+AY, DL), Shangri-La, Hilton
Posts: 7,236
You have to change from HSR to subway at Nangjingnan but that's still easier and faster than getting to Pudong on rail.
It is possible to connect to the AY HKG flight from SHA on KA with several hours layover but not from HKG to SHA (10 am departure) due to afternoon arrival of AY from HEL.
#614
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
Timewise it is from anywhere west of Shanghai (Kunshan, Suzhou, Wuxi, Changzhou etc.) where a lot of the passengers for the AY PVG - HEL flight originate.
You have to change from HSR to subway at Nangjingnan but that's still easier and faster than getting to Pudong on rail.
You have to change from HSR to subway at Nangjingnan but that's still easier and faster than getting to Pudong on rail.
Nowadays, my colleagues and I would have more use for HGH or (very unlikely to happen due to HKG closeness) SZX.
There is no point. SHA would be advantageous only if it had a direct flight. It is directly connected to HSR, and it is on the west side of Shanghai. Admittedly, you might have to take the subway to change terminal.
#615
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 938
I do realise it's not that straightforward...I think the real reason is that any potential new destination (KUL, MNL, CGK, DPS) which might have the customer demand but is on the limit of the 24 hour turnaround time from HEL is a tough call for AY.
The other reason is the continuous increase of services to these cities by the ME3 airlines with great connections from all major cities in Europe.