Finnair to West Coast
Apr 25, 2015, 10:22 am
#16
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And if I had to visit the silly con valley from HEL, I would try HEL-ORD-SJC rather than HEL-***-SFO anyway. That is a perverse advantage to not flying to SFO.
Apr 25, 2015, 1:21 pm
#17
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Apr 26, 2015, 4:12 am
#19
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No doubt one can fill those planes, but at the same time a potential problem outlined here also: "cheapest-fare basis".
Apr 26, 2015, 8:20 am
#20
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I like the speculation but I don't like the misleading title of this thread. I thought it was breaking news about a new route announced. At least a question mark should be added to the title IMHO.
I would like to see AA and AY partner on the US–India route, establishing direct flights between DFW/MIA/ORD/JFK/YYZ and HEL + HEL and DEL/BOM/MAA/CCU, with short connections at HEL.
I would like to see AA and AY partner on the US–India route, establishing direct flights between DFW/MIA/ORD/JFK/YYZ and HEL + HEL and DEL/BOM/MAA/CCU, with short connections at HEL.
May 5, 2015, 8:22 pm
#21
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I'm not sure how viable West Coast operations would be given that SK already flies to SFO. It would be nice having a West Coast route, but I suppose that's why the ORD route exists.
One thing I do see though is AY potentially testing a seasonal HNL route for Europeans though.
One thing I do see though is AY potentially testing a seasonal HNL route for Europeans though.
May 6, 2015, 4:18 am
#23
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Au contraire!
For A350 it is well within range and for Finnair's "HEL being the closest path" strategy it would work well for many (eastern) european connections.
For A350 it is well within range and for Finnair's "HEL being the closest path" strategy it would work well for many (eastern) european connections.
May 6, 2015, 5:47 am
#24
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When the transition to A350 is nearly complete, perhaps. In the mean time, I'd think Finnair will use the old A340 for Aurinkomatkat destinations (like the B757 before) while it uses the A350 on competitive Asian routes.
Of course, HEL-ANC-HNL is possible, and the extra distance is negligible (4 per mil).
Of course, HEL-ANC-HNL is possible, and the extra distance is negligible (4 per mil).
May 6, 2015, 7:05 am
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May 6, 2015, 2:35 pm
#26
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And HEL is closer to Sydney than ATH is, or any other EU hub.
Last edited by Andaman; May 6, 2015 at 3:00 pm
May 21, 2015, 3:32 pm
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Have you thought about this option?
Would Finnair have a chance to start a route? Would the economics work with any of the destinations, has anything changed recently?
HEL-LAX: probably no, given the low amount of business passengers?
HEL-SFO: business traffic med (Silicon Valley for Tech), heavy leisure traffic from Eastern Europe or from Europe with the cheapest fare?
HEL-SEA: now with the extensive business traffic to Seattle due to Microsoft's Nokia devices business acquisition, could there be a base load? I assume that you would get most of Finnish West Coast leisure travel on top, and a fraction of Northeastern European WC travel on cheapest-fare basis
No need to say that this is not their strategy
Just playing with the thought
Would Finnair have a chance to start a route? Would the economics work with any of the destinations, has anything changed recently?
HEL-LAX: probably no, given the low amount of business passengers?
HEL-SFO: business traffic med (Silicon Valley for Tech), heavy leisure traffic from Eastern Europe or from Europe with the cheapest fare?
HEL-SEA: now with the extensive business traffic to Seattle due to Microsoft's Nokia devices business acquisition, could there be a base load? I assume that you would get most of Finnish West Coast leisure travel on top, and a fraction of Northeastern European WC travel on cheapest-fare basis
No need to say that this is not their strategy
Just playing with the thought
May 22, 2015, 2:17 am
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