OH-LGG

Okay, now it started.

HEL-ARN-HEL 12.5.2015-22.5.2015:

CAMPAIGN 67,12€ W
LIGHT 89,12€ R
VALUE 119,12 R
PRO 581,12 H

and it looks like type Campaign and Light both are now 0 bags.

FFlash

No BASIC there, so it seems Light IS the new Basic as I guessed, with no cheaper price, just a new enhanced level of service experience

FFlash

That was a good one

Good work in this thread BTW to dig out the fare codes ^

OH-LGG

I guess BASIC will be back after Campaign is over (24.3).

miikkak

Basic fares can only be booked through customer service and travel agents (according to AY twitter team).

Courmisch

Is that so? The processing fee would most certainly push the price of the Basic ticket over that of the corresponding Value ticket online price.

Besides, you can buy the luggage allowance at 10€/segment from the website. What's the difference from Basic then?

By the way, it seems Value is slight more expensive than Light plus luggage. And Campaign is likewise barely cheaper than Light, both without luggage.

intuition

Basic fares are still present in GDS. I havent seen any Light types (ie RLI fare)

OH-LGG

This must be those Campaign/Light destinations. I just checked FRA, TLV and SIN and Basic is available thru finnair.fi

intuition

I did look up that specific route and date in expertflyer, and compared it to what is available on finnair.


So, I cannot find "Light" being published. Assuming 'Light' is a ticket type, then it looks like the type works by removing 20€ from corresponding Basic fare, ie adding bags by get back to the exact same price point as buying a Basic.

Matrix cannot find either the campaignor the light types either, but finds the R Basic that is not available on Finnair. If someone finds one of these light types, it would be interesting to have a look at the fare rules.

intuition

And this is extra interesting. Not that I mind, I'm pretty OK with campaign being stripped of luggage. However, the info page on finnair.com says explicitly that:

miikkak

You can find the fare rules for example at travellink.fi after selecting the flights.

Courmisch

I would think this is only transitional, either due to ongoing roll-out, or due to the launch campaign of the Light ticket type. Ostensibly, the Light fare is meant to compete with DY and SK. If it were not eventually published and only available on AY.com, it would be quite useless.

Finnair does not consider Campaign to be a ticket type, at least not consistently. Also this Campaign price is explicitly a sale to launch the Light fare, as I understood the last Finnair Plus electronic mailing.

FFlash

Speaking of fare classes, I found this http://media.finnair.com/files/pdf/F...l_Agencies.pdf

It seems not too old, maybe useful?

OH-LGG

That is useful but it is something from the beginning of new ticket types, was it 2012?
NYC and destinations in Japan are included to types but nowadays those JV's are tickets without ticket type.

intuition

I found it interesting. Many small details I didn't know.
Date inside doc suggests it was made for launch early 2013.

I find it striking that young 'miss Blue Wing', presumable a "top tier" example customer, is only AY gold.

Another thing - the PRO free upgrade is done only at check in. Ie after all other upgrades have been processed (waitlisted, email-offers, bid for upgrade, op-ups). What a generous perk... Remember, PRO usually is more expensive than a Business saver.


UMNR is allowed from Q and upwards

They refer to the "ticket types" as fare families.

They are aware that GDS will only show basic types (which kind of defeats the idea of easy upsell). There is a section describing how to work around that limitation, but that is only TAs. Most of the OTAs does not offer anything than cheapest, a well know issue to many of us.