Bidding for biz seats
May 8, 2017, 3:38 am
#106
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But that's definitely something NOT to count upon
May 8, 2017, 3:43 am
#107
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If one works for such a company at a level that enforces the Y-only rule, I'd think the salary level would be such that it would make an 1800€ outlay for work travel upgrade just impossible. (blow 2 weeks net salary on two upgrades?)
May 8, 2017, 3:50 am
#108
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It is surprising, that "työhyvinvointi" is not counted at all regarding businesses and business travel, including civil servants....
May 8, 2017, 11:45 pm
#109
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May 9, 2017, 12:09 am
#110
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May 9, 2017, 8:56 am
#111
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wow...just wow, anything close to 900 is a rip-off by any means. YMMV
Anyway, I have started to fight back the company Y-policy. Any smart ideas how to, please PM me?
EDIT: I should talk about W-policy instead of Y actually. Y sounds too flexible and expensive
Anyway, I have started to fight back the company Y-policy. Any smart ideas how to, please PM me?
EDIT: I should talk about W-policy instead of Y actually. Y sounds too flexible and expensive
May 9, 2017, 9:15 am
#112
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Some ideas:
Work ergonomics/health angle - we have someone going round the workstations about 1-2x per year checking ergonomic adjustments, but how would 58Ö middle seat look in the same ergonomics meter? 9-12 hrs per pop, repeatedly? Would anyone in the office sit a full working day in a position like that?
Price angle - "I can get nearly as good prices as Y with a bit magic applied. Yes, I might have to do a flight to Prague, even though we have no business there" (if have business, so much the better - I usually spread out my flight ticket over 3 trips - 2x Eur + 1x longhaul. Suddenly the price is rather competitive)
Can work/sleep during the flight - less time away needed (less hotel costs) After Y flight one needs at least a day recuperating.
Work ergonomics/health angle - we have someone going round the workstations about 1-2x per year checking ergonomic adjustments, but how would 58Ö middle seat look in the same ergonomics meter? 9-12 hrs per pop, repeatedly? Would anyone in the office sit a full working day in a position like that?
Price angle - "I can get nearly as good prices as Y with a bit magic applied. Yes, I might have to do a flight to Prague, even though we have no business there" (if have business, so much the better - I usually spread out my flight ticket over 3 trips - 2x Eur + 1x longhaul. Suddenly the price is rather competitive)
Can work/sleep during the flight - less time away needed (less hotel costs) After Y flight one needs at least a day recuperating.
May 9, 2017, 10:01 am
#113
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May 9, 2017, 10:30 am
#114
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Our policy has only one exception allowing J tix: if one goes directly into work after a LH flight. It might have something to do with Y being counted as "travel time" but J as "rest" and the legislation regarding max. continues work hours comes to play. Too bad I haven't been able to use this more than once or twice..
May 9, 2017, 11:29 am
#115
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A former co-worker got always got a doctors certificate wich proofs that he is in a condition unfit to fly Y - it worked
Aug 18, 2017, 2:21 am
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Yes, I believe you do.
All kind of refunds usually needs to be "claimed", ie you need to send in a refund request.
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Couldn't find the rules for bidding, but here is the rules for "last-minute-offer", ie the solicited upgrade offers. Not sure the "automatic refund" is valid in all cases.
All kind of refunds usually needs to be "claimed", ie you need to send in a refund request.
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Couldn't find the rules for bidding, but here is the rules for "last-minute-offer", ie the solicited upgrade offers. Not sure the "automatic refund" is valid in all cases.
6. If I have upgraded myself, what happens to my paid services in Economy class?
In case you have purchased travel extras such as additional checked bags, those will be automatically refunded to you. If you have paid the services with Internet banking, you will be asked for bank details for refund.
Exception: you are not entitled to a refund if the service in question is included in your original Economy fare type, such as PRO fare type.
In case you have purchased travel extras such as additional checked bags, those will be automatically refunded to you. If you have paid the services with Internet banking, you will be asked for bank details for refund.
Exception: you are not entitled to a refund if the service in question is included in your original Economy fare type, such as PRO fare type.
Last edited by intuition; Aug 18, 2017 at 2:35 am Reason: found some rules